[IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt)
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 22 May 2024 16:18 UTC
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Subject: [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt)
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Fred, Proposing a new type of scoped IPv6 addresses is fine. IMHO, there would need to be a lot of justification to warrant that in order to build a consensus in 6MAN and the IETF. It is extremely premature to discuss what prefix to use for it at this point. Bob p.s. I note your draft has no references to any other MANET work, nor any mention of a new addressing scope. > On May 22, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > RFC3879 IANA considerations says: > > “IANA is requested to mark the FEC0::/10 prefix as "deprecated", > pointing to this document. Reassignment of the prefix for any usage > requires justification via an IETF Standards Action [RFC2434].” > > The -templin draft (now at version -02) has been re-scoped to Standards Track although > its IANA considerations are currently NULL: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-mla/ > > But, the key thing to realize about this draft is that it proposes a new addressing > scope for the IPv6 scoped addressing architecture. The addressing scopes are: > > Link-local Addresses > MANET Local Addresses (formerly site-local) > Unique Local Addresses > Global Unicast Addresses > > And, all of these address scopes have their essential uses in the architecture. > > Thank you - Fred > > From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 8:23 AM > To: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com <mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>>; IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt) > > EXT email: be mindful of links/attachments. > > > Fred > > As an individual contributor (and neither a positive not negative opinion on the draft itself), I think it is rather IANA job to do this kind of allocation. > > -éric > > From: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> > Date: Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 17:52 > To: IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>> > Subject: [IPv6]Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt) > > Hi, regarding this debate about the various IPv6 prefixes that may or may not be used > for IPv6 MANET Local Addresses (MLAs), a simple and obvious answer is why not just > reclaim the prefix fec0::/10 (formerly site-local and deprecated by RFC3879)? > > This new draft version therefore requests reinstatement of fec0::/10 in a new role > as the top-level prefix for IPv6 MLAs while rendering RFC3879 obsolete. > > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 8:42 AM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org> > Subject: I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt > > Internet-Draft draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt is now available. > > Title: IPv6 MANET Local Addresses (MLAs) > Author: Fred L. Templin > Name: draft-templin-6man-mla-01.txt > Pages: 7 > Dates: 2024-05-21 > > Abstract: > > Mobile Ad-hoc NETworks (MANETs) present an interesting challenge for > IPv6 addressing due to the indeterminant neighborhood properties of > MANET interfaces. MANET routers must assign an IPv6 address to each > MANET interface that is both unique and routable within the MANET but > must not be forwarded to other networks. MANET routers must be able > to assign self-generated addresses when there is no infrastructure > present on the link that can delegate topology-relative IPv6 > addresses or prefixes. This document therefore specifies a means for > MANET routers to generate and assign MANET Local Addresses (MLAs). > > The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-mla/ > > There is also an HTMLized version available at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-templin-6man-mla-01 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-templin-6man-mla-01 > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at: > rsync.ietf.org <http://rsync.ietf.org/>::internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list -- i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to i-d-announce-leave@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce-leave@ietf.org> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > Administrative Requests: > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > Administrative Requests: > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- [IPv6]Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft-tem… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Bob Hinden
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L
- [IPv6]Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10… David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Reclaiming fec0::/10 (I-D Action: draft… Templin (US), Fred L