Re: A proposal for draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07

james woodyatt <jhw@google.com> Fri, 03 March 2017 18:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: A proposal for draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07
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On Mar 3, 2017, at 02:28, Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>; wrote:
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> So one wonders why64?  One source is this EUI-64 originated at IEEE. Then 'Modified' EUI-64 at IETF.  Yet EUI-64 is no longer. It was designed to replace 48bit MACs.  It did not succeed: we dont see 'EUI-64' on Ethernet-based devices, we continue to see 48bit MAC addresses even on non-Ethernet devices.  But we hear about EUI-128, which would obviously couldnt work with IPv6.


IEEE 802.15.4 is not remotely dead, and it uses EUI-64, not EUI-48.


--james woodyatt <jhw@google.com <mailto:jhw@google.com>>