RE: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?

[Ron Bonica <[e-mail]>]

Ole,

Welcome to dystopia!

I am not so worried about new names in the discussion, because we don't vote in the IETF.  I could ask all of my neighbors and distant cousins to register an opinion on the mailing list, but it wouldn't matter unless they brought new content to the discussion.

When you and Bob evaluate the discussion, I am confident that you will enumerate and evaluate the arguments. Your decision will be based on that evaluation, and not influenced by a vote count.

Since this has been an exceptionally active call for adoption, I am confident that the decision making process will be as transparent as possible. You might consider publishing the list of arguments and your evaluation of each.

                                                                                     Ron
                                                                                   


Juniper Business Use Only

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Segment Routing (CRH, SRH and friends) isn't something 6man has traditionally dealt with.
We have been more concerned about IPv6 in the open Internet, end to end, and not so much of technologies only applicable within a controlled domain.

>From that perspective, it is not surprising that this work attracts a different participant-set than before.

It seems that a proxy war is being fought out in the working group.
With both opponents and proponents of proposals closely aligned along company borders.

Best regards,
Ole, with the dystopian hat on.


> On 28 May 2020, at 13:23, Mark Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I've been an active participant in the ipng, 6man and v6ops IETF working groups since 2002.
>
> While I've only been to one IETF meeting in person since then (106, sponsored by the Internet Society), over that time I've come to recognise the names of many of the regular and active participants in these IPv6 working groups.
>
> I do not recognise many of the names of people who are objecting to the 6man working group adopting the CRH draft.
>
> Those who have been active 6man participants in recent years would know that even an ID adopted by 6man, written by Bob and Brian, that had a number of revisions, didn't survive WG last call, and that occurred while Bob was (as he still is) one of the 6man WG chairs.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
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