Re: default-iids: dropping requirement 1 in Section 3
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Mon, 23 May 2016 15:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: default-iids: dropping requirement 1 in Section 3
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
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Lorenzo, On 05/23/2016 11:41 AM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com > <mailto:fgont@si6networks.com>> wrote: > > > No, the root of this whole problem is embedding a *stable* layer-2 ID in > > a layer-3 field. > > You're wrong. I've provided references that explain why, and Brian has > provided examples. There's not much I can do other than that. > > > Instead of telling me I'm wrong, I would suggest convincing the WG that > I'm wrong, because if you do, it doesn't matter what I think. The fact that your scheme wastes 18 bits of entropy, and requires that only a single layer-3 protocol is used, and only a single IPv6 prefix is employed (so that its exploitation for correlation does not become obvious) shows that the scheme is flawed, and that the scheme itself is what allows for correlation. My apologies for my writing style. My goal is not to prove you wrong. But rather than there's a reason for not wanting the layer-2 id in the IPv6 address. -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Darren Dukes (ddukes)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Joel Halpern Direct
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Chengli (Cheng Li)
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Chengli (Cheng Li)
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Chengli (Cheng Li)
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Darren Dukes (ddukes)
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Bernier, Daniel
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Tom Herbert
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-segm… Gyan Mishra
- Conclusion of 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf… Bob Hinden
- 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941b… Bob Hinden
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4… Erik Kline
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4… Fernando Gont
- 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-grand> Bob Hinden
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Mark Smith
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Jen Linkova
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Michael Richardson
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Bob Hinden
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Fernando Gont
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Mark Smith
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Adrian Farrel
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Mark Smith
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Gyan Mishra
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Gyan Mishra
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Jen Linkova
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Jen Linkova
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Jen Linkova
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Fernando Gont
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Bob Hinden
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Mark Smith
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Jen Linkova
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Jen Linkova
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Mark Smith
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-gran… Mark Smith
- Conclusion of 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf… Bob Hinden