Re: 64share v2
Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 10 November 2020 17:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: 64share v2
From: Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
To: otroan@employees.org
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I see that Cameron agreed with your statement, but not your conclusion. I will try to figure out what I am misunderstanding. Yours, Joel On 11/10/2020 12:41 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > Ole, that problem statement is not how I understand Cameron's > description to this list. > Yours, > Joel > > On 11/10/2020 11:53 AM, otroan@employees.org wrote: >>> From what the operators have said, using the existing infrastructure >>> for RA/SLAAC is important. They have not needed DHCPv6. So they >>> want to be able to offer this using the tools they have deployed. >>> That seems reasonable to me. Creating a new protocol for this would >>> seem even worse. >> >> Then you must have missed the point I made earlier. >> >> What operators find attractive about the RA hack is a deployment model >> where the user's delegated prefix is taken out of a dynamic pool local >> to the box. >> That deployment model results in ephemeral addresses. Which might work >> in an environment with tethering today (a client-only stub network, >> where user is expected to press refresh often). But it is not obvious >> how scaling that hack to multiple links/routers is possible. Without a >> massive cost to the rest of the ecosystem. >> >> We already have a protocol so no need for a new one. >> >> Cheers, >> Ole >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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