RE: Driver for SRV6 [Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch in 2016 - who cares?]
Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com> Wed, 11 August 2021 07:33 UTC
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From: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: Driver for SRV6 [Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch in 2016 - who cares?]
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Then it may be generalized: any TE (including RSVP-TE) would benefit from additional big and random seed (like “flow label”) to better distribute the load between TEs. And then it is not a driver from one form of TE to another. Ed/ From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gyan Mishra Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:03 AM To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Cc: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> Subject: Re: Driver for SRV6 [Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch in 2016 - who cares?] Hi Brian SR is about path selection and steering, however an enhancement over RSVP-TE is the ECMP capability at any node along the path. As SR utilizes ordered list of topological segments to build a steered path selected via SR-TE policy either centralized controller based or hybrid model, the path may consist of a prefix sid global label used for loose hops that can take advantage of hop by hop ECMP steering or an adjacency sid strict steering which can be ECMP with parallel paths as well or Anycast sid for ECMP steering. So the path can be a strict hop by hop path with no ECMP which could be an ordered list of adjacency SIDs with no parallel paths or it could be a ordered list of prefix sid loose ECMP hops. So in the case of a prefix SID or Anycast SID with loose hops, ECMP forwarding path being instantiated, SRv6 can take advantage of RFC 6437 flow label 50/50 uniform load balancing. Kind Regards Gyan On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:51 PM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com<mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>> wrote: Gyan, (Cc's trimmed) Can you explain this assertion please: > IPv6 flow label RFC 6437 stateless uniform 50/50 load balancing is one business driver for operators to migrate to SRv6. I thought SRV6 was about path selection for specific services, which is very different from any form of flow-based load balancing. Regards Brian -- [http://ss7.vzw.com/is/image/VerizonWireless/vz-logo-email]<http://www.verizon.com/> Gyan Mishra Network Solutions Architect Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com<mailto:gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com> M 301 502-1347
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- Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Töma Gavrichenkov
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- Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Töma Gavrichenkov
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- RE: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Vasilenko Eduard
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- Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Gyan Mishra
- RE: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Vasilenko Eduard
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- RE: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Gyan Mishra
- RE: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: IPv6 Anycast has been killed by LINUX patch i… Gyan Mishra
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