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Re: Late IPR Disclosure regarding draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark

Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Wed, 27 July 2022 22:43 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 18:43:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: Late IPR Disclosure regarding draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Hi Brian,

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 4:58 PM Brian E Carpenter
<brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not disputing the chairs' decision, but can we make it very clear that a disclosure this late in the process is *way* outside the intention of the IETF rules?

It would be a very good idea, I'm just not sure how exactly to do this.
I mentioned it during today's session but I guess it's not enough.
Also, I think, such a statement shall be IETF-wide, not 6man-specific,
so maybe we shall bring it to some wider audience?

>I don't mean to criticise the individual IETF participants involved, but the people who take IPR-related decisions inside large companies really need to understand that late disclosures are not OK, do reputational damage, and may have legal implications that I am not qualified to comment on.

Agree.

> On 28-Jul-22 03:27, Jen Linkova wrote:
> > [chair hat on]
> >
> > The chairs believe that there is still consensus to advance the
> > document and this particular IPR disclosure is not a show-stopper.
> > Thank you!
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 12:45 PM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It has come to our attention that an IRP disclosure was made on draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark after the 6MAN w.g. working group and IETF last call ended. The history is:
> >>
> >> 6MAN W.G. Last call Started 20-Dec-2020
> >> 6MAN W.G. Last call Ended 7-Mar-2021
> >> IETF Last Call started 1-Jun-2021
> >> IETF Last Call Ended 15-Jun-2021
> >> IPR Disclosure on 26-Nov-2021 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5320/)
> >>
> >> We find it troublesome that this IPR disclosure was submitted so late, especially since one of the listed inventors is also an author of this draft.
> >>
> >> Consequently, we are starting a two week w.g. last call to determine if there is still a w.g. consensus to advance this document. Please respond to the list if you still support the advancement of this document to the IESG for Proposed Standard, or if you think it should be returned to the w.g. to be reconsidered.
> >>
> >> The last call will end on 14 July 2022.
> >>
> >> Bob, Jen
> >>
> >>
> >
> >



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