RE: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?

"Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Thu, 28 May 2020 21:02 UTC

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From: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, 6MAN <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
Thread-Topic: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
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Brian, please don't delete the message about a concrete use for CRH in real-world
applications (planes, trains automobiles) with backing documentation:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/g43uTZFNVyLV3y-kvrDn8Qktk1Y/

Thanks - Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 1:40 PM
> To: 6MAN <6man@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
> 
> I have concluded two things.
> 
> 1. Most people have completely failed to understand the meaning of "adoption" in the IETF WG context. I and at least one co-author
> will be submitting a draft about that to the gendispatch WG soon.
> 
> 2. When I hear a choir singing, it is the same as hearing one voice.
> 
> My personal decision at this point is to delete all messages about CRH adoption unread, except for the message we will soon receive
> from the WG Chairs stating the rough consensus of the adoption call, which ends on 2020-05-29. I do feel sympathy for the Chairs who
> must read and evaluate everything.
> 
> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
> 
> On 28-May-20 23:23, Mark Smith wrote:
> > I've been an active participant in the ipng, 6man and v6ops IETF working groups since 2002.
> >
> > While I've only been to one IETF meeting in person since then (106, sponsored by the Internet Society), over that time I've come to
> recognise the names of many of the regular and active participants in these IPv6 working groups.
> >
> > I do not recognise many of the names of people who are objecting to the 6man working group adopting the CRH draft.
> >
> > Those who have been active 6man participants in recent years would know that even an ID adopted by 6man, written by Bob and
> Brian, that had a number of revisions, didn't survive WG last call, and that occurred while Bob was (as he still is) one of the 6man WG
> chairs.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mark.
> >
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