RE: Expiration impending: <draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt>

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Tue, 24 November 2020 16:05 UTC

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Expiration impending: <draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt>
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Hello Brian;

Many thanks again for you support. Since I sensed more support than opposition I republished.

The new version points on the RFC numbers for the full WiND suite, now that it is available.
To your point below, I changed the intended status to informational. See:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-08.txt

keep safe!

Pascal


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> Sent: dimanche 22 novembre 2020 20:58
> To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>om>; 6man WG
> <ipv6@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: Expiration impending: <draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-
> 06.txt>
> 
> Pascal,
> 
> Can you explain why this is proposed as a standards track document? As far as I
> can see it doesn't define any new protocol elements.
> 
> If it is, as I suspect, simply an explanation of how various other standards fit
> together to provide WiND, it might be equally useful as Informational, as well as
> much easier to get it published. Viewed that way, I think it is very useful work.
> 
> (There is also the standards track option of an Applicability Statement, which the
> IETF uses very rarely and most people don't know about.)
> 
> One comment you would surely get from reviewers is that the Security
> Considerations should at least contain a summary of issues, even if the details
> are in the references.
> 
> One nit is that if you want to promote the "WiND" acronym, it should be
> included in the document title.
> 
> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
> 
> On 22-Nov-20 21:17, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
> > Dear all:
> >
> > I do not have much to add to the individual submission. It is up to the WG to
> take it from there or let it die. What do you think ?
> >
> > Keep safe!
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > Début du message transféré :
> >
> >> *De:* IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
> >> *Date:* 22 novembre 2020 à 09:01:00 UTC+1
> >> *À:* draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless@ietf.org
> >> *Objet:* *Expiration impending: <draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-
> 06.txt>*
> >>
> >> The following draft will expire soon:
> >>
> >> Name:     draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless
> >> Title:    IPv6 Neighbor Discovery on Wireless Networks
> >> State:    I-D Exists
> >> Expires:  2020-12-03 (in 1 week, 3 days)
> >>
> >>
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