Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 14 December 2020 22:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry]
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org, David Farmer <farmer=40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 15-Dec-20 10:41, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> wrote:
>     >> I think maybe a call for sponsors (and ungleich would certainly be one
>     >> of them) could show who would be interested in this role.
> 
> 
>     > I don’t think $250 is the right number for this, it is the current
>     > minimum number for ARIN region. Should it be less, yes it should be, at
>     > least for community networks, in my opinion, but who qualifies and
>     > under what terms.
> 
>     > Community networks aren’t the only ones that want something like ULA-C,
>     > and plenty of the others that want ULA-C can and should pay their
>     > freight.  Plenty of corporations want address space that is filtered by
>     > default in the DFZ but they can associate and secure communication with
>     > their business partners, and know for sure it is a particular business
>     > partner.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>     > I’m not sure all users should get ULA-C for free because one class of
>     > user needs it to be free and is probably justified to receive it for
>     > free.
> 
> It's not the dollar amount that matters in this case, but rather, the
> bureaucracy required to raise the PO.

It turns out that we have running code of a solution to that: the fee
waiver for on-line IETF meetings. I could imagine something like that
for a ULA-C registry. Commercial use: issue a PO. Non-commercial use:
request a waiver.

     Brian