Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1?
Ed Horley <ed@hexabuild.io> Wed, 30 November 2022 19:29 UTC
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From: Ed Horley <ed@hexabuild.io>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:28:54 -0800
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Subject: Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1?
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>From an email exchange with Dave Thaler (Microsoft) back in 2015 when I asked about this: "I’m not in any hurry to see it removed (under the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” principle). Even the RFC section you cite says: Existing implementations and deployments MAY continue to use this prefix. " So I don't see Microsoft removing this from the OS unless there is a specific existing security exploit or concern that is demonstrated to be exploitable. Also, the draft you found has Dave listed as a co-author. Perhaps that helps close the loop? NOTE - I'm not speaking for Dave or Microsoft - just trying to provide some context. Out of my list of IPv6 asks for the Windows OS, this one isn't high on my personal list to get "fixed". I feel it is a cosmetic issue more than anything else at this point. On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 8:36 AM Nick Buraglio <buraglio@es.net> wrote: > I have also heard through the grapevine that those pre-dated the > deprecation of site-local and that there is "no plan to remove them". This > is anecdotal, I have never seen reference to it, just side conversations I > have had over the years. > > > ---- > nb > > ᐧ > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 9:53 AM Dale W. Carder <dwcarder@es.net> wrote: > >> Thus spake Klaus Frank (klaus.frank@posteo.de) on Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at >> 04:08:07AM +0000: >> > does anyone know what RFC is responsible for the IPv6 DNS server >> > configuration on all windows clients defaulting to fec0:0:0:ffff::1, I >> was >> > unable to find any. Nor is it listed in the iana special-purpose address >> > registry. >> > >> > I however found a draft (draft-ietf-ipv6-0dns-discovery-07) from 2002, >> but >> > no actual RFC. >> >> That draft matches my memory. Recall that was well before rfc5006 >> which was quite late to the party to address a glaring oversight >> as the ra vs dhcpv6 holy wars raged on. >> >> Having well-known resolver addresses be site-local (and anycasted, >> despite what the draft claims on that issue) could have been a >> logical design pattern for local networks. >> >> But more generally, no two people could ever be expected to agree on >> a common definition of what a "site" is. rfc3879 documents the pain >> very well. (see a generalized incarnation of this issue in rfc8799). >> >> Dale >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ed Horley ed@hexabuild.io | (925) 876-6604 Advancing Cloud, IoT, and Security with IPv6 https://hexabuild.io And check out the IPv6 Buzz Podcast at https://packetpushers.net/series/ipv6-buzz/
- [IPv6] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Klaus Frank
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Erik Kline
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Dale W. Carder
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Nick Buraglio
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Ed Horley
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] [v6ops] RFC for fec0:0:0:ffff::1? Owen DeLong