Re: [v6ops] A common problem with SLAAC in "renumbering" scenarios

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Sun, 03 February 2019 19:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] A common problem with SLAAC in "renumbering" scenarios
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Agree. Just wanted to clarify that assertion, as I've heard it too many times.

AVM/Fritzbox, if I recall correctly is one of the very very very few vendors that write the prefix in the flash ...

Regards,
Jordi
 
 

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De: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Fecha: domingo, 3 de febrero de 2019, 20:41
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
CC: "v6ops@ietf.org WG" <v6ops@ietf.org>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
Asunto: Re: [v6ops] A common problem with SLAAC in "renumbering" scenarios

    On 2019-02-04 06:46, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    >     The RIPE document does not recommend it. In Germany, that's the expected
    >     default.
    >     
    > ---->  This is not correct, in the context of another mailing list, a few day ago, some people (including people from Germany) confirmed that this is not true for Germany, neither there is any law or anything similar that requires dynamic prefixes.
    
    It doesn't matter. The objective fact is that getting a new prefix after a CPE reboot, or after a DSL disconnect/reconnect, or every 24 hours, is common, and not just in Germany.
    
    Not that I've ever had any stale address problems as a result, even at a time when I was getting multiple ADSL disconnects per day due to a line fault. So with a FritzBox and Windows hosts, the "common problem" simply wasn't a problem.
    
       Brian
    



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