Re: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02.txt
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 19 July 2012 00:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02.txt
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In message <D41807CF-B7F5-4770-8FB5-F0630AA4F22B@apple.com>, Stuart Cheshire wr ites: > On 16 Jul, 2012, at 20:50, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > Stuart, > > your mail client botched the Content-type line generation. > > You may want to report it. > > > > Content-type: image/png; x-unix-mode=0644; name=Whatis' > > "?.png"="" > > Content-transfer-encoding: base64 > > Content-disposition: inline; filename="What is ' ?.png" > > > > Mark > > Mark, your tone sounds very confident that you're absolutely certain > that you know exactly what botched what, and whose fault it is. > > I'll reserve judgement until I actually know what happened, but what > I can tell you is this: Viewing the outgoing TCP packets with > tcpflow, this is what my mail client sends on-the-wire to the SMTP > relay: > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Type: image/png; > x-unix-mode=0644; > name=What is ' ?.png > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="What is ' ?.png" Which isn't a syntactically valid Content-Type header (RFC 1341). > By the time you received the email, Mark, it had been rewritten to > the form you showed. As to what intermediary (or intermediaries) > contributed to that rewriting, I do not yet know. It may have been re-written but Garbage In - Garbage Out. > It's ironic that this problem occurs in the midst of a discussion of > the problems of escaping and message framing. The reality seems to be > that unless we keep things supremely simple, we can't hope to have > all programmers get it right in all cases. If there's exactly one > valid form for a string, then maybe we can hope to have that > implemented properly. When there are different representations of the > same string in different contexts, the probability of everyone > getting it right in all contexts pretty much approaches zero. It was slightly ironic. > Slightly off-topic, I'm told that at least some mail clients > truncated my original email at the line "unintentionally leaked > through into the user interface." > > As composed on my Mac, there was some introductory text, then two > images, then the bulk of the text, as it appears in the archive: > > <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg16128.html> > > Apparently some mail clients turned the second chunk of body text > into an attachment. > > I'm curious as to how widespread this issue is -- I might have to be > more careful about where I put images in my email messages in the > future. > > Could people send me a quick private email saying what mail client > they use and whether it: > > 1. Showed the entire message as I composed it with the two images > displayed in-line (like the archive). > 2. Showed the entire text of the message, but with the two images as > attachments (Gmail shows it this way). > 3. Showed only the first five paragraphs of text, with the two images > and remaining text as attachments. > > I'll summarize results to the list. > > Stuart Cheshire > -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02.txt Stuart Cheshire
- Re: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02.txt Stuart Cheshire
- Re: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02.txt Mark Andrews