Re: [IPv6] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-05.txt
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Tue, 26 September 2023 03:47 UTC
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:47:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: [IPv6] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-05.txt
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Brian, BTW, I checked with Tom, and he didn’t receive the 6man chair review of this draft: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/gKa2ffGu3lIK-PV8imrXueHX2iY/ He now has it. > On Sep 25, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > Technically, this looks good. > > With my IETF Process Wonk hat on, I very much doubt that a BCP is > allowed to formally update a standards track document. I suggest > discussing that with immediately the AD to avoid much wider debate > during IETF Last Call and IESG review. Alternatively, simply > remove Updates: 8200. I am not convinced that the draft does truly > *update* RFC8200. There is this: > >> 3. Requirements >> This section lists the normative requirements related to sending and >> processing extension headers. The requirements in this section >> update the processing requirements specified in Section 4 of >> [RFC8200]; in particular, requirements for how many Hop-by-Hop >> options an intermediate node must process are updated. > > but I don't see where section 4 of RFC8200 states how many HbH options > a node *must* process. So I think that this BCP does *not* in fact > update RFC8200. That was the chairs conclusion as well. Bob > A more accurate phrase would be: > "The requirements in this section augment the processing requirements ..." > If agreed, that would resolve my Process Wonk dilemma. > > Regards > Brian > > On 26-Sep-23 11:17, Tom Herbert wrote: >> Hi, >> I posted a new version of the Extension Header Limits draft. The >> primary change is to make intended status BCP per feedback. There are >> also some other edits. >> Thanks, >> Tom >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org> >> Date: Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 3:15 PM >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-05.txt >> To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> >> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-05.txt has been >> successfully submitted by Tom Herbert and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> Name: draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits >> Revision: 05 >> Title: Limits on Sending and Processing IPv6 Extension Headers >> Date: 2023-09-25 >> Group: 6man >> Pages: 21 >> URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-05.txt >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits/ >> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits >> Diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-05 >> Abstract: >> This specification defines various limits that may be applied to >> receiving, sending, and otherwise processing packets that contain >> IPv6 extension headers. The need for such limits is pragmatic to >> facilitate interoperability amongst hosts and routers in the presence >> of extension headers and thereby increasing the feasibility of >> deployment of extension headers. The limits described herein >> establish the minimum baseline of support for use of extension >> headers in the Internet. If it is known that all communicating >> parties for a particular communication, including end hosts and any >> intermediate nodes in the path, are capable of supporting more than >> the baseline then these default limits may be freely exceeded. When >> published, this specification updates [RFC8200] and [RFC8504]. >> The IETF Secretariat >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- [IPv6] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ie… Tom Herbert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] New Version Notification for draft-iet… Bob Hinden