[IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 23 May 2024 02:35 UTC
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Subject: [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry
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On 23-May-24 14:03, Kyle Rose wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 9:54 PM David Farmer <farmer=40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > > Nevertheless, if the data is to be believed, people are, in fact, using multiple /48s. I'm simply saying that is a fact, and it counters the argument that "no one needs more than a /48," at least in my opinion. > You and others are completely entitled to your counter-opinion. > > > I'm not disputing that some might need more than a single /48. I'm disputing the conclusion that ULA-C and central registration is required to solve this problem, which feels like a complete non-sequitur. Just tell them to generate a shorter prefix meeting their needs, alongside a warning about what the future consequences might be. Right. If I want to use fd00:bec0::/32 (BEC being my initials), I certainly can, and it will disturb nobody. I'd be foolish to use fc00:bec0::/32, because who knows what it will be used for 10 years from now. Brian
- [IPv6]Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Kyle Rose
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Kyle Rose
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Lorenzo Colitti
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Mark Smith
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Kyle Rose
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Kyle Rose
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Ole Trøan
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Bob Hinden
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Nico Schottelius
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Ole Troan
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Kyle Rose
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Mark Smith
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry Nico Schottelius
- [IPv6]Re: Analysis of Ungleich ULA Registry David Farmer
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