Re: Informed regulator about the shorter-than-64 necessity on 3G/4G/5G

Yucel Guven <yucel.guven@gmail.com> Wed, 20 January 2021 17:55 UTC

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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:56:29 +0300
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Subject: Re: Informed regulator about the shorter-than-64 necessity on 3G/4G/5G
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>, IPv6 <ipv6@ietf.org>
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> "There is too big a power differential between the cellular user that
want to be able to have multiple subnets and the telcos for free market
economics to work."

More explicitly?  Do you mean that cellular operators 'do not want you
share your internet connection'  for free market economics to work?

Regards,


On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:19 AM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:

>
>
> > On 19 Jan 2021, at 09:04, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Alex,
> >
> > On 18/1/21 05:45, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
> >> Hi, 6MANners,
> >> Today I formulated a brief personal email to some person(s) at the
> >> regulator agency suggesting the allocation of shorter-than-64 prefixes
> >> (e.g. /56) to end users.
> >> I explained that the current situation where each of the mobile
> >> operators deliver a /64 and not shorter to smartphones is not usable for
> >> networks such as mobile hotspots or in-car multi-subnet networks.
> >> I informed that there are some I-D proposals of Variable SLAAC that is
> >> relatively refused at IETF because of the IETF necessity of 64bit (and
> >> not shorter) IIDs.
> >
> > This seems to be confusing things.
> >
> > Proposals for "classless IPv6" (e.g.:
> draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6) are meant to allow SLAAC to work with
> *longer* prefixes (i.e., shorter IIDs)
> >
> > Shorter prefixes (i.e., bigger address blocks leased to users) are
> already supported by DHCPv6-PD, without the need of any additional protocol
> action.
>
> I think the intent of the message was to get regulators to force operators
> to *use* DHCPv6-PD with short prefixes.
>
> There is too big a power differential between the cellular user that want
> to be able to have multiple subnets and the telcos for free market
> economics to work.
>
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Fernando Gont
> > SI6 Networks
> > e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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