RE: Updates to RFC6434
"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Mon, 30 October 2017 23:46 UTC
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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
CC: Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Updates to RFC6434
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Tim, Consider also as a second example that RFC4861, section 3.1 gives a "Comparison with IPv4", including citations of RFC826 and other relevant IPv4 RFCs. Whereas RFC8200 and RFC4861 have multiple paragraphs, however, I think rfc6434(bis) can make do with s single sentence near the beginning as for RFC8200. Thanks - Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Chown [mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:32 PM > To: Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> > Cc: Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>; 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: Updates to RFC6434 > > Hi Fred, > > We can add this topic to the list of things to be raised in the Singapore meeting. > > If anyone else has strong view on this, please do shout now though. > > Tim > > > On 30 Oct 2017, at 20:46, Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Tim, > > > > I believe it should be cited in the introduction in the same way as > > RFC8200 cites RFC791. > > > > Fred > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tim Chown [mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk] > >> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:28 PM > >> To: Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> > >> Cc: Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>; 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> > >> Subject: Re: Updates to RFC6434 > >> > >> That was a ‘could’; I think we subsequently agreed it wasn’t necessary, for the reason Tim mentioned? > >> > >> Tim > >> > >>> On 30 Oct 2017, at 20:06, Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Tim, > >>> > >>> I am referring to Tim Chown’s proposed resolution to my original comment: > >>> > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg28394.html > >>> > >>> Tim’s proposal was to cite RFC1122 in the intro, which I agree would be > >>> appropriate. > >>> > >>> Thanks - Fred > >>> > >>> From: Timothy Winters [mailto:twinters@iol.unh.edu] > >>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:46 PM > >>> To: Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> > >>> Cc: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> > >>> Subject: Re: Updates to RFC6434 > >>> > >>> Hi Fred, > >>> > >>> I thought we decided we didn't want to point to the historic IPv4 text in that. Can you remind me were you wanted that text? > >>> > >>> ~Tim > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: > >>> We talked about adding an informative reference to RFC1122. Can > >>> you please add that? > >>> > >>> Fred > >>> > >>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Winters > >>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 6:43 AM > >>> To: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> > >>> Subject: Updates to RFC6434 > >>> > >>> We have posted an updated version of 6434bis, with the following changes since Prague: > >>> • Text on EH processing > >>> • Noted that RFC4191 is a MUST, but a SHOULD for Type C node > >>> • Updated RFC references (8200, 8201, 8221, 8247) > >>> • Added note on RFC 7772 for power consumption > >>> • Added ‘Why /64?’ reference; RFC 7421 > >>> • Removed jumbogram text > >>> • Added reference to draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host > >>> • For 3GPP, added ‘snapshot’ comment on RFC7066 > >>> • Added RFC8028 as a SHOULD (for Section 5.5 from RFC 6724) > >>> • Removed ATM over IPv6 > >>> • Added reference to RFC8064 > >>> • Added MUST for BCP 198, and ref to draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs > >>> • Added text on avoiding 1280 MTU for UDP (inc. DNS) traffic > >>> We'll be sending some additional questions to the list later this week to hopefully get this document ready for working group last > >> call. > >>> > >>> ~Tim, Tim and John > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > >>> Date: Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:36 AM > >>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-02.txt > >>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >>> Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > >>> This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Maintenance WG of the IETF. > >>> > >>> Title : IPv6 Node Requirements > >>> Authors : Tim Chown > >>> John Loughney > >>> Timothy Winters > >>> Filename : draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-02.txt > >>> Pages : 40 > >>> Date : 2017-10-30 > >>> > >>> Abstract: > >>> This document defines requirements for IPv6 nodes. It is expected > >>> that IPv6 will be deployed in a wide range of devices and situations. > >>> Specifying the requirements for IPv6 nodes allows IPv6 to function > >>> well and interoperate in a large number of situations and > >>> deployments. > >>> > >>> This document obsoletes RFC 6434, and in turn RFC 4294. > >>> > >>> > >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis/ > >>> > >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-02 > >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-02 > >>> > >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-02 > >>> > >>> > >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >>> > >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >>> ipv6@ietf.org > >>> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Now offering testing for SDN applications and controllers in our SDN switch test bed. 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- Updates to RFC6434 Timothy Winters
- RE: Updates to RFC6434 Turner, Randy
- Re: Updates to RFC6434 Timothy Winters
- RE: Updates to RFC6434 Templin, Fred L
- Re: Updates to RFC6434 Timothy Winters
- RE: Updates to RFC6434 Templin, Fred L
- Re: Updates to RFC6434 Tim Chown
- RE: Updates to RFC6434 Templin, Fred L
- Re: Updates to RFC6434 Tim Chown
- RE: Updates to RFC6434 Templin, Fred L
- Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style heade… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Mark Smith
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Ole Troan
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Erik Kline
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Mark Smith
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Ole Troan
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… C. M. Heard
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tim Chown
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… C. M. Heard
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fred Baker
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… C. M. Heard
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… C. M. Heard
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tim Chown
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Ole Troan
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tim Chown
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tom Herbert
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- RE: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tom Herbert
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tim Chown
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Michael Richardson
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Bob Hinden
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Fernando Gont
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… Tim Chown
- Re: Updating to RFC6434 to deal with 8200-style h… C. M. Heard