Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?]

Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 27 September 2022 21:32 UTC

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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 10:32:05 +1300
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Subject: Re: Network merge [Re: RFC6724-bis?]
To: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
Cc: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Regards,
    Brian Carpenter
    (via tiny screen & keyboard)


On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, 09:57 Ole Troan, <otroan@employees.org> wrote:

>
> RFC8028
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> Isn’t that a host behavior document?
> Could not find where that changes router behavior.
>
> O.
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> Regards,
>     Brian Carpenter
>     (via tiny screen & keyboard)
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, 09:00 Ole Troan, <otroan@employees.org> wrote:
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>>
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>> > On 27 Sep 2022, at 21:48, Brian E Carpenter <
>> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 28-Sep-22 08:40, Ole Troan wrote:
>> >>> (It is the presence of a ULA /48 prefix in local routing that we care
>> about. The PIO for a /64 within that /48 is the trigger that it needs high
>> precedence.)
>> >> Extending and overloading existing protocol fields is problematic. The
>> proponents of this need at least to consider the consequences for existing
>> implementations and future extensibility of the protocol. As well as the
>> deployability of this, compared to existing standardized solutions.
>> >
>> > There isn't a standardized solution, since the mechanism for updating
>> the RFC6724 table is not standardized. A=L=0 is already standardized to
>> mean "I can route this prefix" and the proposal builds on that exact
>> semantic.
>>
>> Can you point to text stating that a PIO with A=L=0 in an RA from a
>> router is a promise by that router to forward traffic for those prefixes?
>> Or that a PIO has that semantic in any context.
>>
>> Rfc7078?
>>
>> O.
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