Re: [v6ops] A proposal for draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07 - timeline

Erik Kline <ek@google.com> Thu, 09 March 2017 11:40 UTC

Return-Path: <ek@google.com>
X-Original-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF31129559 for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 03:40:06 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.7
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wqVrbwWQIoJo for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 03:40:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-yw0-x233.google.com (mail-yw0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58D2D129437 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 03:40:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-yw0-x233.google.com with SMTP id v76so6503470ywg.0 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 03:40:05 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZaR7Tw1xamWMxFxmrGwDfYhSCsQN2m14wpACWnxnB8c=; b=M8bEmOkOmidwsPIyAsINi5pzH6El/L/tA5PNtQG68vYkFcCSyav9OXSwv+5BifV9rg Q+fdV/jZzLxoLCCy979TyDFzk5Rdc9M1eX7slgl4X+bJolpton76GqSaLPd3t3WSN8H7 EovuqduVN6VW4TRPBCbd5RlEHI/qEpanHij1DbuLs1aNYYHKMDwGFuMvgOPYVqG1AQJ3 8Jad4gNwxF7/lbILnbx8qFvWIip84Jvxn2bCsjSuq3pN7ZbXL3SjrvdhZ9URkfCOEfqS Yn9ZxHdP4SSAe0vvT77jdlvDqCFM6yJ16sdcuaMt8YxHcqHgaTgRcs839UnzoyX2wwVd Neuw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZaR7Tw1xamWMxFxmrGwDfYhSCsQN2m14wpACWnxnB8c=; b=hTubbqjjmQC2ZVlN9hqvQ5ZG2tKqlh6nYuU28hH8IvkYbzOvZinXbFZveEo92wvSJh nnR/T12EExiSkF1KbSfzoygg+Aih8ssP+vVjhLMRrd5UWrQLoQ8aXdQ+l0qdYfKq14Bb 9b/xo79w6G2JVdzLR8UwbexcZ1cCZJdGYwYuyU3vm0f7RtamYQU+xLeWpN/XoRg456Uz oES1LXJMuu8i4Pum3IHWWwoBZLkOoivOk4wzuH9+1kjQsMC4FJkH0MiAI36ZzAuRx0uM skcLp262L36imhFK2T+X+E/8qRiL+wwQxotgtIi9ahw7KFijEhci4+KP74BmezLh/rUQ Xxaw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39kfYozB3WWazq5Cv9elUlV0IuSTlGstJhdch9wCWiEAW1LDGwjQ54+GMfMfGc4CWa5K8NiK5vQ5ci4gpKlC
X-Received: by 10.129.118.18 with SMTP id r18mr3332305ywc.0.1489059603942; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 03:40:03 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.37.207.4 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 03:39:43 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <420E5EB5-2FD8-4CF6-B067-5C51501911CE@employees.org>
References: <CAN-Dau17q_BrUuzfvB1mLDt6p5UxYikphWaHpa8VQ2L-3kx-DA@mail.gmail.com> <5B4AFF50-8CA9-4134-8CE2-A383DB5F8BF5@google.com> <m1ckxfo-0000IMC@stereo.hq.phicoh.net> <225F639E-27C1-4408-BC2B-26500929049B@google.com> <CAOSSMjUR203+hYFBrFBrj9Xkjux3o7fYNd4y9kNyxwpLxF11ew@mail.gmail.com> <6D825351-7F43-4540-89AB-48DC2B5E92E3@google.com> <CAOSSMjUP6m-L1iNhE=BxHW+7hvt4YsZgxxtVn+qmgEVS9HeStA@mail.gmail.com> <3EC22050-D159-488D-A354-E46F04764E25@google.com> <CAOSSMjW_fPz3RdPyK=e-EyvyW4GawFAr3zcGLkBzDcR8Ws2MUw@mail.gmail.com> <90292C5E-013D-4B7C-B496-8A88C7285CD7@google.com> <CAOSSMjXf1ah6nrAorf+mpnOxXBpHg6difgCo4mQ6rPVZoU8CSw@mail.gmail.com> <7FAD8D2B-B50E-44C5-AAA3-0C91621D9D54@google.com> <CAOSSMjX4Rq969cTuAU+sqWmW7Rh2-nxjd1vpSkeAevVZTed1HA@mail.gmail.com> <ED8E5513-A522-4D37-A0A2-0960CF3E5394@google.com> <36251EE1-309C-44B5-BEAE-591889492547@employees.org> <9B6D49C1-D793-465B-A395-28147BD22FAC@google.com> <CAOSSMjUy2=yguYh6iMmd6O6d91WrdNEFgo9Gn+4urVp33vug2Q@mail.gmail.com> <3397bed0-1ca8-7b62-8215-7561883de4a9@gmail.com> <420E5EB5-2FD8-4CF6-B067-5C51501911CE@employees.org>
From: Erik Kline <ek@google.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 20:39:43 +0900
Message-ID: <CAAedzxoFgrbu=gPf9HTF2MRvNsq8nV=PuYE-x8kdVMho00cqag@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] A proposal for draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07 - timeline
To: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="f403045f0ba8ca7129054a4ab455"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/A-tfPG5Ejr_IFFC7EH2OiUDamFA>
Cc: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: ipv6@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IPv6 Maintenance Working Group \(6man\)" <ipv6.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:40:07 -0000

On 9 March 2017 at 17:18, <otroan@employees.org>; wrote:

> Alex,
>
>
> [...]
>
> > Retrospectively:
> >
> > At time of that discussion, year 2004, there was no IPv6 on cellular
> > links, [I-D]. Since then 3GPP got many recommendations from IETF about
> > how to run IPv6. The result is 3GPP User Equipment links only support a
> > single 64 today.
> >
> > My supposition, and many indications converge, is that the 64
> > recommendation from the IPv6 Addressing Architecture RFC led to this
> > undesirable situation of a single 64 for an UE.
>
> That is one speculation. You may reconstruct history differently:
> If it wasn't for RFC6177/RFC3177 combined with the 64-bit boundary (and
> SLAAC), what you would have had on a UE would be a single IPv6 address.
>

Precisely.