Re: A problem with RFC 6465's Uniform Format for Extension Headers
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Fri, 28 March 2014 00:05 UTC
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To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: A problem with RFC 6465's Uniform Format for Extension Headers
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Hi, Hagen, I'm currently working on a rev of the aforementioned I-D. Please send me your <author> xml so that I can incorporate you as a co-author. Thanks! Cheers, Fernando On 02/07/2014 10:23 PM, Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote: > * Thomas Narten | 2014-02-06 07:21:49 [-0500]: > >> But we are already there. Folk won't deploy anything other than >> TCP/UDP because NAT won't deal with it. That has already been reality >> and is the reason that other or new transport protocols appear to be >> virtually undeployable today. > > Maybe actual in parts of the Internet. We deploy larger networks with our > router silicon and we _use_ IPv6 extension header to transport signaling > information. Period. Our need is not on the protocol side - UDP is fine for > all - we need additional extension header (think about roaming information). > And we _have_ actual problems with the current situation! This is why I wrote > the I-D back in 2011[1]. > > I remember a time where ECN did not work properly and where dropped > occasionally by broken middleboxes. LKML started to enabled ECN and things > improved over time. > > We should not stop solutions here because administrators/vendors infringe > protocol best practices. We should focus on an proper protocol design which > enables possibilities. > > Hagen > > > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pfeifer-6man-exthdr-res-01 > -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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- Re: A problem with RFC 6465's Uniform Format for … Fernando Gont
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