Re: Automatically connecting to stub networks...

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 03 December 2020 13:46 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: Automatically connecting to stub networks...
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Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com> wrote:
    > Hi All,
    > This draft contradicts to RFC 8028. If IETF would approve both then
    > overall progress would be “nowhere”.

I don't understand.
It seems to entirely depend upon RFC8028, leverage it.

    > Alternative general approach is explained in RFC 7157: synchronous
    > download of the same policy into SASA (by RFC 7078) and next hop
    > selection (by RFC 4191), then current priority for next hop selection
    > could be preserved.

I don't understand how RFC7078 helps, given that a postulate of the
stub-network is that the home/enterprise DHCPv6-server is not capable of
being aware of the stub-network.

If it could, then we could do DHCPv6-PD.

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