Re: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Thu, 27 February 2020 13:43 UTC

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From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
Subject: Re: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Even if one assumes that the violation has not been proven, I think it 
has been shown clearly that PSP pushes the limits of 8200.  If there is 
a strong reason for PSP, then pushing those limits is sensible.  But the 
vast majority of the response we are getting to the issue on this list 
is either:
1) It does not actually violate, so we can do what we want, even if the 
value is marginal
2) the limits do not apply

Neither of those seem to address the question.  And that gap is a 
concern with closing the last call.

Yours,
Joel

On 2/26/2020 6:18 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
> Writing this without any hat,
> 
> Please note that on the logical side, it still have to be "proven" that this idea is strictly forbidden by RFC 8200. Moreover, this 'proof' can technically wait until the IETF last call or even until the IESG ballot. I see little point in postponing the closing of the WGLC and advancing the document (of course, the document shepherd will need to carefully write the section about the rough WG consensus).
> 
> Finally, as far as I know, at the IETF we have no religion... else we would still be running NCP or IPv4 :-)
> 
> -éric
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
> 
> ...%<...%<....
>      
>      It doesn't really matter how many people say +1 for moving it forwards
>      -- if there are valid technical objections these have to be dealt with
>      - and I think that the relationship with RFC8200 falling into this
>      category...
>      
> 
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