Re: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?

HI Mark,

So what is your recommendation ?

What should make an individual eligible by your standards to express an
opinion on adoption or last call of any proposal in 6man or any WG?

If someone is following SPRING and 6MAN just by reading list archives and
he sees an adoption call - by your standards he can not one time voice his
opinion ? Very interesting ...

In fact 6man is open also for non subscribers making it very welcoming to
anyone to send an email even without joining the WG list.

Sure - in the past I personally experienced folks from a vendor subscribing
and voting with an artificial name yet silly enough to use their company
internal mailer domain - pretending he is an operator, but those would be
rather ugly exceptions then a rule.

Thx a lot,
R.

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 4:48 AM Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you think somebody who spent many hours of their own time preparing
> and presenting this at the AusNOG 2015 conference wants to discourage
> IETF participation, unless it is trying to influence group consensus
> via membership stacking and using ring-ins (Australian for non-genuine
> members)?
>
> "Why you should read RFCs and Internet Drafts (and what you need to
> know to do so)"
>
> https://www.ausnog.net/sites/default/files/ausnog-2015/presentations/1.4_Mark_Smith_AusNOG2015.pdf
>
> On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 01:08, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 28, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Am questioning if we are seeing a growth in participation – or a
> blatant stacking of the floor with people who have never set foot on the
> lists and will never will again.
> > >
> >
> > (No hat)
> >
> > I’m concerned about how welcoming this might be to new participants who
> perhaps have a legitimate problem to be solved that they discover in the
> operations of a network.  This above text doesn’t reflect a welcoming
> environment, nor one where perhaps someone has something valuable to
> contribute in a single area of expertise of operations.
> >
> > I’m going to bookmark this thread for a reminder next time someone asks
> me about if the IETF is welcoming to newcomers.
> >
> > - Jared
>
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