Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt
Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Sun, 16 July 2017 09:32 UTC
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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:31:41 +0200
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt
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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:40 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Maintenance of the IETF. > > Title : IPv6 Node Requirements > Authors : Tim Chown > John Loughney > Timothy Winters > Filename : draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt > I see that the document still says: There will be a wide range of IPv6 deployment models and differences in address assignment requirements, some of which may require DHCPv6 for stateful address assignment. Consequently, all hosts SHOULD implement address configuration via DHCPv6. We should abandon this documentation, for two reasons. First, networks that require DHCPv6 assignment are explicitly NOT RECOMMENDED by current IETF best practices. Specifically, RFC 7934 section 8 says "it is RECOMMENDED that the network give the host the ability to use new addresses without requiring explicit requests". A DHCPv6-only network cannot meet this recommendation, because on a DHCPv6-only network, all addresses acquisition requires an explicit request to the network. Second, the draft says "Where devices are likely to be carried by users and attached to multiple visisted networks, DHCPv6 client anonymity profiles SHOULD be supported as described in [RFC7844]". But RFC 7844 says that hosts SHOULD prefer stateless address configuration over DHCPv6: "hosts using the anonymity profile SHOULD use stateless address configuration instead of stateful address configuration". So for such devices, there is a direct conflict: this document says they SHOULD do DHCPv6, but RFC 7844 says they SHOULD not if other addressing modes are available. I would propose the following text for section 6.5: [...] There will be a wide range of IPv6 deployment models and differences in address assignment requirements, some of which may use DHCPv6 for stateful address assignment in addition to other addressing modes. Using DHCPv6 as the only IPv6 address configuration mechanism is NOT RECOMMENDED [RFC 7934 section 8]. In the absence of a router, IPv6 nodes using DHCP for address assignment MAY initiate DHCP to obtain IPv6 addresses and other configuration information, as described in Section 5.5.2 of [RFC4862]. Where devices are likely to be carried by users and attached to multiple visisted networks, DHCPv6 client anonymity profiles SHOULD be supported as described in [RFC7844] to minimise the discolosure of identifying information. This profile recommends that the device prefer stateless address configuration over DHCPv6 address configuration. Devices that do not have particular anonymity requirements SHOULD implement address configuration via DHCPv6 in order to be able to take advantage of IPv6 addresses available only via DHCPv6.
- I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt internet-drafts
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Timothy Winters
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Erik Kline
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Job Snijders
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Sander Steffann
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt David Farmer
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt David Farmer
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Morizot Timothy S
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Morizot Timothy S
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Tim Chown
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Tim Chown
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Tim Chown
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Timothy Winters
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Bob Hinden
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L