RE: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> Thu, 27 February 2020 13:27 UTC

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From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
CC: "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>, SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>, "Maojianwei (Mao)" <maojianwei@huawei.com>, draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming <draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Considering the discussion about how +1’s don’t mean much – I still feel that I need to +1 what Ted said in the below paragraph 😊

It seems to me that there is a belief that if you ignore objections long enough – and shout loud enough – the objections will some how disappear.

That if you promise things at a meeting – like the review of the amount of address space burn – and then do nothing – sooner or later – the issues will disappear.

Guess what – that isn’t the case – and if people truly want to get something passed – instead of playing a war of attrition – which seems to be what is going on here – they will actually go and do the work and address the concerns.

Andrew


What I objected to in Maojianwei’s comment is the notion that the document should pass last call to support the industry. No, the working group should do the work to address the objections that have been raised. If you find yourself explaining some concept that’s mentioned in the document using text that is not in the document and not in another document referenced by the document, the fix is not to just publish anyway, because it supports the industry. The fix is to update the document. A dozen or so +1s should not be taken seriously if the work has not been done and nobody wants to do it.