RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt
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From: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>, "sarikaya@ieee.org" <sarikaya@ieee.org>
CC: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt
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I don’t think it is time for this yet. The document calls for multilink subnets, care-of addresses and Mobile IP whereas AERO and OMNI do not. There is a point to be made that Pascal’s doc considers multihop primarily whereas AERO/OMNI consider multiple links primarily. But, I think it would be a pretty simple extension to get AERO/OMNI to do multihop using your favorite choice of MANET or other technology. Thanks - Fred From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gyan Mishra Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:24 PM To: sarikaya@ieee.org Cc: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt Pascal I agree that this is an important topic that 6MAN should take up. As for draft name I agree with standards track and the name shown in the subject heading draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06 is good. You maybe familiar with an inherent issue that exist with multicast over WiFi where the multicast packets are transmitted at the lowest connection speed of all hosts associated to an SSID and thus the connection bandwidth ends up being low. Dual band 5G with 802.11ac does help as devices not supporting AC cannot connect and have to connect to the single band SSID. However older devices on single band still are subject to the significant step down to the lowest speed.. Since IPV6 uses multicast for ND, all ND packets automatically get throttled and stepped down to the lowest bandwidth of all connected devices. This step down issue exists for IPv4 multicast packets, however I have not tried with IPv6 but i am guessing the issue does exist. There are WIFI vendor implementation that exist to circumvent the step down issue by taking incoming multicast steam and unicast out to all WiFi clients. Drawback is bandwidth consumption with unicast over shared WIFI channel. Kind Regards Gyan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com<mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Pascal, I suggest changing the draft name from draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless to draft-thubert-6man-ipv6nd-over-wireless Regards, Behcet On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 11:52 AM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: Dear all I applied the changes proposed by Carsten and held the change to informational status for now, per the latest with Brian. Many thanks to both of you! Pascal -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> Sent: lundi 1 juin 2020 18:47 To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com<mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt A new version of I-D, draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Pascal Thubert and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless Revision: 06 Title: IPv6 Neighbor Discovery on Wireless Networks Document date: 2020-06-01 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 23 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless/<https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless/> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-06 Abstract: This document describes how the original IPv6 Neighbor Discovery and Wireless ND (WiND) can be applied on various abstractions of wireless media. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org<http://tools.ietf.org>. The IETF Secretariat -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org<mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org<mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
- FW: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-thuber… Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Gyan Mishra
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-thuber… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6m… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)