Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Thu, 27 February 2020 21:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200
To: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>
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From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:48:12 -0300
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On 27/2/20 18:32, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi Fernando, > >> On Feb 27, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com >> <mailto:fgont@si6networks.com>> wrote: >> >> Suresh, >> >> Two months ago I filled an errata on RFC8200 regarding the processing >> of IPv6 extension headers. The errata is available here: >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5933 >> >> While I believe that folks with a knowledge of Internet Protocols >> would be able to interpret what is in RFC8200, given recent >> discussions on the topic, and upon a re-read of the text, I believe a >> clarification is warranted, such that we allow all sorts of curious >> interpretations of the text. > > I think this would be fine to clarify, but IMHO the errata process is > not the right way to do it. > > Based on the IESG Statement about processing of RFC Errata for the > IETF Stream > (https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/processing-rfc-errata/) > > "Changes that modify the working of a protocol to something that might > be different from the intended consensus when the document was approved > should be either Hold for Document Update or Rejected. Deciding between > these two depends on judgment. Changes that are clearly modifications to > the intended consensus, or involve large textual changes, should be > Rejected." I have been part of the rfc2460bis/RFC8200 effort, and clearly the consensus was the IPv6 extension headers are not added/removed along the packet delivery path. For instance, Appendix B of RFC8200 says: o Clarified that extension headers (except for the Hop-by-Hop Options header) are not processed, inserted, or deleted by any node along a packet's delivery path. > As you said above, some people might interpret the text in RFC8200 to > mean the replacement text you provided in the errata but others might > read the text exactly as written ("until the packet reaches the node > identified in the Destination Address field of the IPv6 header”). Given > that the text in RFC8200 had consensus (and I don’t think you said > otherwise) and it is impossible to tell after the fact if the proposed > replacement text would have achieved consensus, I think this erratum > falls under the above category. Can you please, as AD, answer these questions: * Does IPv6 support IPv6 header insertion/removal along the packet delivery path? * If you assume so, then, How does it play with core IPv6 functionality like: IPsec AH PMTUD error reporting > I will process this and move it to the “Hold for Document Update” state > with the following note This would clearly be incorrect. This is not a proposal for new behavior, but a clarification of the intended behavior of IPV6/RFC8200. Thanks, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
- Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Mark Smith
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont
- Re: Errata #5933 for RFC8200 Fernando Gont