Re: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Thu, 28 May 2020 20:00 UTC

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Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 13:00:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
To: "Voyer, Daniel" <daniel.voyer@bell.ca>
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Dear Daniel and Andrew, et al.,
IMHO, "+1" had happened before, happens, and, more likely, will happen.
Have to live with that and try to preserve IETF as we like it to be - a
place for civil technical discussions and collaboration.

Stay well. Stay safe.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:05 AM Voyer, Daniel <daniel.voyer@bell.ca> wrote:

> Hello Andrew,
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> Am questioning if we are seeing a growth in participation – or a blatant
> stacking of the floor with people who have never set foot on the lists and
> will never will again.
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> Similar to the floor of +1’s we saw on something else a while back – where
> – once I took the list of all of them – and ran through an analytics script
> – had never posted to any archive I could find – and have never posted
> since.
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> DV - I tried to raise the point, earlier, that the exact same phenomenon
> happened in spring, literally copy/paste your lines for spring.
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> Obviously it shows that “something” is happening between these 2 working
> groups, now we should just go with it  or, well what are we going to do
> about it ?
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> Regards,
>
> dan
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