Re: [Manycouches] one should not be using github, because it is on IPv4

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Wed, 21 July 2021 15:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] one should not be using github, because it is on IPv4
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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I fully agree. Github folks told us many times, many years, in different foras, that they will implement "soon" IPv6. So, I will say otherwise: they are arrogant and disrespectful.

IETF MUST NOT, at this point, use *ANY* tool that doesn't allow IPv6, and even less when we have alternatives.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 21/7/21 17:15, "ipv6 en nombre de Toerless Eckert" <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de tte@cs.fau.de> escribió:

    I am not sure if manycouches is the right list for this.
    (what is a network protocol, and why would i care ?)
    Where do the IPv6 folks mostly flock together ... 6man ? Added.

    Too bad it's Corona times. We could have organized something like
    "Thursdays for IPv6" and rallyied in front of Github offices in San Francisco.

    Why else would IETF go to San Francisco otherwise if not to partake in
    a good rally (IETF56: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_March_2003_anti-war_protest)

    Of course, everything can be digitized:

    Find someone from ITF's gather.town team, get an outdoor area on gather.town
    with a street and a github office at the end. Have a protest rally for 30
    minutes next week, someone needs to show some presentation then in gather.town
    e.g.: showing how many companies already do use IPv6. We all come with our
    avatars, someone needs to screen record this, put it up on youtube, pass it
    to all the journalists you can find, so the youtube URL gets visibility.

    Didn't we already do something like this on gather.town ?

    Cheers
        Toerless

    On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:21:14PM +0200, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
    > more time passes more I think we should not be using github
    > 
    > Github is, err, not disrespectful, not arrogant, but let us say
    > 'overlooking' my and others' requests of putting github on IPv6.  IPv6 is no
    > longer the future of the Internet, but the current.  Somebody not on IPv6
    > risks of becoming invisible.
    > 
    > At the same time, we insist in various places, including here, to use IPv4
    > and github.
    > 
    > It is not normal.
    > 
    > Alex
    > 
    > 
    > Le 20/07/2021 à 22:53, Martin Duke a écrit :
    > > Hi Murray,
    > > 
    > > "Facility" is now gone from the document, but I made a small addition in
    > > this PR.
    > > https://github.com/martinduke/draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting/pull/16
    > > <https://github.com/martinduke/draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting/pull/16>
    > > 
    > > Thanks for the review.
    > > Martin
    > > 
    > > 
    > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 2:38 PM Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker
    > > <noreply@ietf.org <mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:
    > > 
    > >     Murray Kucherawy has entered the following ballot position for
    > >     draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting-05: No Objection
    > > 
    > >     When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
    > >     email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
    > >     introductory paragraph, however.)
    > > 
    > > 
    > >     Please refer to
    > >     https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
    > >     <https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html>
    > >     for more information about DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
    > > 
    > > 
    > >     The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
    > >     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting/
    > >     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting/>
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > >     COMMENT:
    > >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > 
    > >     I suggest the shepherd writeup should have been sent back for
    > >     revision.  It
    > >     answers the first three questions (What is the status, why is this
    > >     the right
    > >     status, is it shown on the front page?) with just "BCP".  Also,
    > >     "N/A" is not an
    > >     appropriate answer to question 7.
    > > 
    > >     Given the capitalization in Section 3.1, it appears some terms were also
    > >     imported from RFC 8718 (e.g., "Facility", which is formally defined
    > >     there).  We
    > >     might want to make it explicit that these definitions are imported.
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > _______________________________________________
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    > > Manycouches@ietf.org
    > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manycouches
    > > 
    > 
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