Re: Why one Internet?
Pars Mutaf <pars.mutaf@gmail.com> Tue, 10 April 2012 15:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: Why one Internet?
From: Pars Mutaf <pars.mutaf@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > Lixia, > > The original note says "I think it is possible to locate the node we need." > > So, the idea is apparently not to divide the Internet - it is simply to > deal > with the fact that addresses would be ambiguous. Since we have 15 years > experience of the pain caused by ambiguous addresses, and a perfectly good > 128 bit address space that avoids any need for ambiguous addresses, I don't > see the point. It isn't even worth sending the code. > > Pars, > > Your original note also says "I am not here to discuss these details." > Sorry, > but in the IETF it's *exactly* the details that we must discuss; that's our > job. We've been doing so since 1992 to my personal knowledge. > > I propose have a network of Internets: Internet1 Internet2 Internet3 ... Interntet_n In Internet 1 and 2 we may have two nodes with the same address. The goal is to route the packet to the right Internet. I don't think it is impossible. Pars > Regards > Brian > > On 2012-04-10 15:09, Lixia Zhang wrote: > > the Internet is a means to communicate. > > and the market drives for most effective/efficient/economical > communication systems (there are tradeoffs between the adjectives) > > wonder if you could help explain how your picture of "network of > Internets" would be more effective and economical (than what we have now) > > > > Lixia > > > > On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Pars Mutaf wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> In my opinion, we can add one more Internet when necessary, then > another one etc. > >> > >> We can have as many Internets as we need, all different. > >> > >> We just need a *network of Internets*. > >> > >> The first (current) Internet is an IPv4 Internet. > >> The second Internet can be an IPv4 Internet too. In this case we would > have 2 IPv4 Internets. > >> Obviously, in this case, we would have the same addresses used by two > different nodes in > >> the two Internets. I think it is possible to locate the node we need. I > am not here to discuss > >> these details. > >> > >> The second Internet can be an IPv6 Internet. > >> > >> The second Internet can be a IPv7 Internet. > >> > >> The second Internet can be IPv6 but we may have a third one which is > IPv7 etc. > >> > >> We just need a network of Internets, all possibly different. > >> > >> Pars > >> http://content-based-science.org/ > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >> ipv6@ietf.org > >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org > > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
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