Re: Long-standing practice of due-diligence is expected - Re: [spring] CRH is not needed - Re: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Wed, 27 May 2020 23:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: Long-standing practice of due-diligence is expected - Re: [spring] CRH is not needed - Re: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
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On 27/5/20 18:50, Robert Raszuk wrote:
[...]
> 
> I am not against CRH. But what I am against is that CRH/SRm6 authors 
> already bounced back via SPRING doors so they have chosen to try to 
> enter via 6man window. That is not proper style for any proposal.

As someone that has experienced how folks have resorted to very twisted 
readings of RFC2460, and how they have undermined appropriate further 
clarifications in what became RFC8200, both in the context of what 
became RFC8754 and the ongoing network-programming draft (subject of an 
appeal), I find this statement kind of amusing.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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