Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6.

Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Thu, 31 March 2011 09:32 UTC

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From: Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:33:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6.
To: George Michaelson <ggm+ietf@apnic.net>
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:16, George Michaelson <ggm+ietf@apnic.net>; wrote:
>>  Internet location
>>
>> and
>>
>>  Endpoint identification for use by applications
>>
>> are totally different functions and in the long run everything is
>> easier if they are kept separate.
>
> I *think* I'd do a 'no disagree +1' on that, but maybe thats another conversation.
>
>>  It's taken us 20 years to get to
>> the point where we might be able to separate them.  Let's help others
>> not go through the same learning experience.
>
> Like I said, the conversation is going to happen, and we have to face their expectations. I think its being done individually, industrial sector by sector. My first introduction was the smart whitegoods sector, washing machines and the like. I had no exposure to the car segment but its clear high-value goods attract 'smart' solutions labels like flies to honey.
>
> I don't think "go away" is the right answer. I think "your model has flaws" is closer.

Someone (IAB? ISOC?) needs to publish something to the world about
separation of functions, and the perils of mixing locators and
identifiers.  We can help write it.

> The key message is that if they apply for patents in it (BMW) they clearly see dollar-signs and its very hard to trump money.

Hadn't thought of that.  Hm.

Scott