Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-16: (with COMMENT)
Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Thu, 23 January 2014 00:19 UTC
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:19:32 -0800
Subject: Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-16: (with COMMENT)
From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>
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(changed the subject line since Pete changed his ballot position) On 1/22/14 9:23 AM, "Bob Hinden" <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: >Several reasons why I think Proposed Standard is appropriate. > >The properties for IPv6 interface-identifiers are defined in RFC4291, >currently at Draft Standard. This includes several types of >interface-identifiers including EUI-64 based interface-identifiers. >Other types of interface-identifers, such as temporary addresses, SEND >CGA, etc., are defined in other standards track RFCs. This document is >consistent with this. > >The working group is also working on a recommendation to make Stable >Privacy interface-identifiers the default, instead of EUI-64 based >interface-identifiers. The working group is also discussing if it wants >to deprecate the EUI-64 based interface-identifiers. See: > > >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-6man-deprecate-eui64-based-addr >esses/ Just to be clear for those in the IESG and elsewhere who may not be following this closely, there actually is not currently WG consensus to deprecate the use of EUI-64-based IIDs. So it is possible that we end up in a situation where the above-referenced draft makes SHOULD-level recommendations about which mechanisms to use or not, but no MUST-level recommendation against EUI-64-based IIDs. If draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses is made informational, it may dilute those recommendations even further. I'm all for sticking to the document classification criteria in general, but within a specific protocol suite it makes sense to be consistent, otherwise implementers receive mixed messages merely because we don't have our own house in order. Alissa > >This is currently in an adoption call, please see the email on the >ipv6@ietf.org list. I think it would be confusing to prefer an >Informational RFC over Standards track. > >Hope this answers your question. > >Thanks, >Bob > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >ipv6@ietf.org >Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >--------------------------------------------------------------------
- Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-stable-… Pete Resnick
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Fernando Gont
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Pete Resnick
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Thomas Narten
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Fernando Gont
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Brian Haberman
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Bob Hinden
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Pete Resnick
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Bob Hinden
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Pete Resnick
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Bob Hinden
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Fernando Gont
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Alissa Cooper
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Scott Brim
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Pete Resnick
- Re: Pete Resnick's Abstain on draft-ietf-6man-sta… Brian E Carpenter