RE: graceful renumbering of CPE networks

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 26 February 2019 15:53 UTC

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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 16:53:00 +0100
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
cc: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: graceful renumbering of CPE networks
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2019, Bernie Volz (volz) wrote:

> How does a Reconfigure play into the ISP-router recovering its state?
>
> Reconfigure is between the client HGW and the DHCP server. The DHCP 
> server can issue a Reconfigure to the HGW (obviously communication needs 
> to be restored at the ISP-router - hence the bulk leasequery).
>
> Note also that there are two ways for the DHCP server to deliver the 
> Reconfigure to the client - one is to unicast to the client directly, 
> the other is to relay it (this requires the server to retain the 
> Relay-Reply (or Relay-Forw)). Our server supports both methods - the 
> operator can specify when they initiate the Reconfigure.

Does the bulk leasequery really put back all needed state in the relay? So 
there is nothing needed to have the HGW do anything?

For a different scenario, in the sense of "the customer was moved to a 
different BNG" so there is now no state on the new router for this 
customer (but the HGW doesn't know), how is DHCP reconfigure done?

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se