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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry

"Manfredi (US), Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com> Wed, 09 December 2020 22:27 UTC

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From: "Manfredi (US), Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com>
To: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "ipv6@ietf.org" <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Templin (US), Fred L 

> Bert, fd00::/8 followed by a 40-bit (random) Global ID followed by a 16-bit Subnet ID
followed by a 64-bit Interface ID is plenty good for what I need; I don't see any need
to change RFC4193 at least to satisfy my use case.

Fred,

Sure. Me too. Not the point. I'm just saying that what Nico is talking about is actually entirely legit, from the viewpoint of RFC 4193. The IETF could indeed go down this path, setting up a registry of some sort, or handing that task off to the IANA and the RIRs, as long as the work involves exclusively the fc00::/8 address space.

Part of the confusion exists because ULAs are defined in RFC 4193 as fc00::/7. In fact, there should be no major disconnect here.

Bert

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