Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam>
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Subject: Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam>
To: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
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Zafar, authors, I think most of what you done is fine. There are still somr things to do, e.g. align with 7322, rewrite the Abstract and work with the authors of draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header to make their IANA considerations are correct from your point of view. Then this The IPv6 address of the nth Link between node X and Y at the X side is represented as 2001:DB8:X:Y:Xn::, e.g., the IPv6 address of link6 (the 2nd link) between N3 and N4 at N3 in Figure 1 is link between N3 and N4) at node 3 is 2001:DB8:3:4:31::. I'd like to drill down a bit more on this paragraph. In the generic example "Xn" represents the n-th link between node x and Y, right? And you need the first "X" in "X:Y:Xn" to identify the node? SInce the first X uniquely identify the node, why is X needed in the second field. In a specific case the 11th lik of node 3 and the 1st link of node 31 would bive the same result - "311". You disambiguate by the node number of the first "X". So for the eleventh link of nod 3 to node y: 3:y:311 And for the first link of node 31 to node y: 31:y:311 Right? So why should not 3:y:11 and 31:y:1 work. /Loa On 21/02/2020 13:41, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote: > Hi Loa, > > We have addressed most of your comments in the enclosed .txt file. > > We have also uploaded updated XML file to the 6man/OAM repository (but > please use the enclosed .txt file for diffs. Somehow “Compare Editor's > Copy to Working Group Draft” is pointing to older diffs. > > Details of how your comments are addressed are listed in the following > as well as in the enclosed updated diffs file that you shared earlier. > > We plan to address the remaining comments very soon. > > Many thanks again for detailed review. > > Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > *How comments were addressed*: > > [LA1]The Abstract seems to be a bit ìbareî, it should be a stand-alone > text, this seem to pre-suppose an high level of familiarity with the topic. > > [ZA] rewrite TBD. > > [LA2]Dataplane or data pale, us one both not both. > > [ZA] Changed. > > [LA3]îsomeî, this begs for an explanation of what has been left out and why. > > [LA4]There is an RFC 7322, please make sure that you are following these > guidelines. > > S for the placement of the ìRequirement Languageî, the style guide says > that it should be placed as a top level section after the Introduction, > however not even the RFC Editor follow that guidance, the Requirement > Language are most often placed as a subsection of the introduction. > > [ZA] Changed the text to follow the RFC7322 guideline. > > [LA5]There is a new template for this, BCP BCP 14 which consists of twp > RFCs ([RFC2119] [RFC8174]) should be referenced. > > [ZA] Reference to [RFC8174] added. > > [LA6]Thos is very sparse, and it is also a direct copy og the abstract > (or the other way around). I donít think this is allowed. > > [ZA] rewrite TBD. > > [LA7]I think you could remove this header and make îAbbreviationsî > section 1.1 > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA8]RFC 8402 define this is as îSegemetns Leftî > > [ZA] Good catch! Fixed. > > [LA9]Also this document uses îSegments Leftî > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA10]Admittedly the topology is simple, but the figure could be much > clearer. > > I agree that it is a good idea to define a simple topology and use it > throughout the document. > > [ZA] Thanks. Any suggestion to simplify is welcomed. > > [LA11]This could be a good place to explain the use of înode kî. > > [ZA] Moved. > > [LA12]Probably not a very strong point, ìclassicî is already a bit > ambivalent, and will be more so as the time goes by. Iíd say just drop > it, or make it ìnon-SRv6 IPv6 nodesî. > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA13]îNode kî is not in the reference topology. > > [ZA] Node k is used to refer to all nodes collectively (e.g., to define > the IPv6 addressing scheme for them.). IMO this should be fine. > > [LA14]If you are going to push the link number into the IPv6 address, it > would be better to start numbering from zero. > > [ZA] There is no node 0 in the topology. The addressing example is based > on node names. IMO this should be fine. > > [LA15]This three is redundant, the î3:4î in the two previous positions > uniquely identify the link, > > [ZA] Actually it is not redundant as the last :3 represents the link > address at node 3 side. IMO this should be fine. > > [LA16]After going through this a number of time Iím convinced that this > is correct. However, it takes quite an effort to go through a rather > cryptic text. Is it possible to clarify. > > [ZA] Thanks for your feedback. Actually there was a typo and I fixed it. > > [LA17]This îS1î means îSID1î, why do we need the ìSî as a special > notation when we already have ìSIDî > > [ZA] Si is a notation that relates to a topology or service segment. > S[j] represents the SID pointed by the SL field in the SRH. S[j] is like > a index in sid-list in the SRH. IMO this should be fine. > > [LA18]When we were specifying MPLS-TP we diid a lot of OAM work, > concepts like MIPs and MEPs were introduced. Do these concepts have any > bearing on SRv6 OAM? > > [ZA] Thanks for your feedback. SRv6 OAM is in-line with OAM in IPv6 > networks, which are not of transport nature. > > [LA19]This is a double reference to the same document and strictly note > necessary The format of the second reference is also wrong and does not > appear in the reference list. > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA20]Well, if you do you need a subsection in the IANA Consideration. > The flag field is defined in ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, but it is > still a draft. > > As this document stands now you canít find the IANA allocations. Partly > depending on that IANA not yet done the allocations, but also because if > they were done there is no clear reference to the registry. SRH.Flags is > not the name of the registry. > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA21]The notation îSRH.Flagsî is invented here, right? > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, and the SRV6 Networking > programming draft (which is referenced for terminology) simply talks > about SRH or ìSRH Flagsî. > > [ZA] The SRH.Flags is defined in draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. > The IANA registry for SRH.Flags is requested in > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. This document just defined a > flag to identify OAM packets. > > [LA22]Why start with bit 2, why not 0 or 7? > > [ZA] There is a long history. This O-flag flag were originally defined > in the > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header-11. > > During the LC review, it was moved to OAM draft. But the position has > been already defined and used by the ASICs. Hence, keeping the same bit > position. > > [LA23]We are allocating a flag from a registry defined in > draft-ietf-6man-segment- routing-header. Since this is still in IESG > review it will not be possible progress this document until the routing > header document is in the RFC Editors queue, and it canít become an RFC > until the document defining the registry is also an RFC. > > I think the SRH flags registry should be properly named here, "Segment > Routing Header Flags" > > [ZA] Yes, the SRH flags registry is named as "Segment Routing Header > Flags". Please see IANA section in the new revision. > > [LA24]I think the should be either OAM, Operation Administration and > Maintenance; or O&M, OAM and Management. > > See RFC 6291. > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA25]Note: Chapter 3 is well written and easy to understand > > [ZA] Will fix it - TBD. > > [LA26]Comment added after reading the entire section, the procedures and > mechanisms described is as far as I can judge well and clearly documented. > > [ZA] Thanks. > > [LA27]An Extreme nit, but I would call this îPing in SRv6 Networksî > > [ZA] Fixed > > [LA28]I said it before ñ I donít like ìClassicî, and I donít thnk it is > necessary or contribute significantly. > > [ZA] We will think about renaming. TBD. > > [LA29]I think this procedures is well and clearly documented. > > [ZA] Thanks. > > [LA30]As far as I can see this works. > > [ZA] Thanks. > > [LA31]We might want a reference. > > [ZA] This should be fine as this is well know. > > [LA32]At this point I start think of SRv6 as îconnection oriented. > > [ZA] SRv6 enables source routing. > > [LA33]I see no immediate technical problems here. > > [ZA] Thanks > > [LA34]I defer to the security experts on this section. > > [ZA] Yes that is part of the review process. > > [LA35]You need text in this section describing the allocation of the O-flag. > > [ZA] Fixed. > > [LA36]What are the registration procedures??? > > If I understand correctly we want to take one of the unused ICMPv6 Type > Numbers and create the ìICMP Type Numbers ñ SRv6 OAM messagesî registry. > > But with all due respect the text is a bit tangled. > > [ZA] Fixed the text. Thanks for the good catch. > > [LA37]This allocation is in itself not problematic, but the registries > are not yet in place., weíll have to wait for the network programming > draft to progress. > > [ZA] Agreed! > > Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > *From: *"Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com> > *Date: *Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 12:30 PM > *To: *Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, Brian E Carpenter > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>, 6man WG > <ipv6@ietf.org>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org> > *Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org>, "Zafar Ali (zali)" > <zali@cisco.com> > *Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for > <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam> > > Hi Loa, > > Sorry, I could not get back to your other comments, earlier. > > I am starting to look into all outstanding comments. > > It will be great if you could send me copy of the word document diffs > (privately). > > But either way, your comments are quite clear. > > Many Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > *From: *"Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com> > *Date: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 6:46 PM > *To: *Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, Brian E Carpenter > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>, 6man WG > <ipv6@ietf.org>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org> > *Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org>, "Zafar Ali (zali)" > <zali@cisco.com> > *Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for > <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam> > > Loa, > > Many thanks. > > The comments in your email has been addressed in latest version in the > GitHub. > > We are working to address the rest of your comments. > > Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > *From: *Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> > *Date: *Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 5:03 AM > *To: *"Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com>, Brian E Carpenter > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>, 6man WG > <ipv6@ietf.org>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org> > *Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for > <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam> > > Zafar, > > Tnx - 1 down 36 to go! > > Actually a bit more with the NITs output. Can you take a look at the > > long lines next, it should be easy edits. > > The first two long lines are in this paragraph: > > 248 S01.1. IF SRH.Flags.O-flag is set and local configuration permits > > 249 O-flag processing THEN > > 250 a. Make a copy of the packet. > > 251 b. Send the copied packet, along with a timestamp > > 252 to the OAM process. ;; Ref1 > > 253 Ref1: An implementation SHOULD copy and record the timestamp as > > soon as > > 254 possible during packet processing. Timestamp is not carried in > > the packet > > 255 forwarded to the next hop. > > Line 253 has four characters "n as" outside the allowed 72 characters > > Line 254 has the word "packet" outside the allowed 72 characters > > This is inside the figure and I think that you can left shift the > > enire figure, otherwise I don't see a problem with introducing line > > breaks. > > In figure 4: > > 639 > traceroute srv6 B:4:C52 via segment-list B:2:C31 > > 641 Tracing the route to SID function B:4:C52 > > 642 1 2001:DB8:1:2:21 0.512 msec 0.425 msec 0.374 msec > > 643 SRH: (B:4:C52, B:4:OTP, B:2:C31; SL=2) > > 644 2 2001:DB8:2:3:31 0.721 msec 0.810 msec 0.795 msec > > 645 SRH: (B:4:C52, B:4:OTP, B:2:C31; SL=1) > > 646 3 2001:DB8:3:4::41 0.921 msec 0.816 msec 0.759 msec > > 647 SRH: (B:4:C52, B:4:OTP, B:2:C31; SL=1) > > 649 Figure 4 A sample output for hop-by-hop traceroute to a SID > > function > > Line 649 has "tion" of "SID function" (fig numbring) outside the allowed > > 72 characters, again should be easy to left shif or introduce line > > breaks. > > The reason I want to address this first is that it is easy, but also > > a show stopper. > > And last, thugh I hate to add late comments - abbreviations, I have not > > gone through the entire document to look for unexpanded abbreviations, > > but there is at least one "NPU". Which I read as Network Processing Unit, > > what confuses me is that it is not in the RFC Editors abbreviation list > > at all. I think there is an action point for the wg chairs to have it > > introduced, and for the authros to expand, as well as going through the > > document an d make sure that everthing that should be expanded is. > > /Loa > > On 22/01/2020 13:15, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote: > > Hi Loa, > > Many thanks for your follow-up. > > Based on your feedback, we have updated the version in the GitHub. > > Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > *From: *Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu>> > > *Date: *Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 9:59 PM > > *To: *"Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com <mailto:zali@cisco.com>>, > Brian E Carpenter > > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>>, > Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org <mailto:otroan@employees.org>>, 6man WG > > <ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org > <mailto:spring@ietf.org>> > > *Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:6man-chairs@ietf.org>> > > *Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for > > <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam> > > Zafar, > > Thanks for addressing this. However one thing remains. The text is now: > > "There MAY be additional segments preceding the END.OP/ END.OTP SID." > > I don't think there is a need for requirement language in that sentence, > > I read it as straightforward English: > > "There may be additional segments preceding the END.OP/ END.OTP SID." > > Would do very well. > > Can you explain the need for requirement language? > > /Loa > > On 22/01/2020 01:55, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > Many thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. > > The working copy of the new version in the repository > addresses your/ > > Loa’s comment highlighted in your email. > > https://github.com/ietf-6man/srv6-oam > > Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > *From: *spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org > <mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org> > > <mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org> > <mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org%3e>> on behalf of Brian E Carpenter > > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com > <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> > <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> > <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com%3e>> > > *Organization: *University of Auckland > > *Date: *Monday, January 20, 2020 at 2:57 PM > > *To: *Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu> > <mailto:loa@pi.nu> <mailto:loa@pi.nu%3e>>, Ole Troan > > <otroan@employees.org <mailto:otroan@employees.org> > <mailto:otroan@employees.org> <mailto:otroan@employees.org%3e>>, 6man > > WG <ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org%3e>>, SPRING WG > > <spring@ietf.org <mailto:spring@ietf.org> > <mailto:spring@ietf.org> <mailto:spring@ietf.org%3e>> > > *Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org > <mailto:6man-chairs@ietf.org> <mailto:6man-chairs@ietf.org> > <mailto:6man-chairs@ietf.org%3e>> > > *Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for > > <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam> > > To be clear about one of the points in the review, MAY NOT is not > > allowed by RFC2119 because it is totally ambiguous in English > (since it > > can mean either "must not" or "might not"). In any case the > phrase "MAY > > or MAY NOT" is not of any normative value. It presumably > simply means > > "MAY" in all cases in this draft. > > Regards > > Brian > > On 20-Jan-20 20:54, Loa Andersson wrote: > > WG, > > I have reviewed the entire document. > > First, I'm not an IPv6 expert. > > As far as I can see the sued on > > I have not used github, I had a couple of attempts to learn > > the tools, > > but so far I have failed. > > I have instead done what I use to do, use the review > tool with > > Word. > > Since I sometimes have a pushback on the docx-format I save > > the result > > as a .txt-file. Drawback is that all comment show up as > > refrences to a > > list at the end of the document. But you can't get > everything. > > /Loa > > PS gives this output for this draft; it is quite a lot > and in > > itself are > > so much that it is worth sending it bck to the authors and > > asking them > > to fix it. Was the noits tool checked at all before starting > > the wglc? > > idnits 2.16.02 > > /tmp/draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam-03.txt: > > Checking boilerplate required by RFC 5378 and the IETF > > Trust (see > > https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info): > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > No issues found here. > > Checking nits according to > > https://www.ietf.org/id-info/1id-guidelines.txt: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > No issues found here. > > Checking nits according to > > https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist : > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** There are 3 instances of too long lines in the > > document, the > > longest one > > being 6 characters in excess of 72. > > == There are 5 instances of lines with > > non-RFC3849-compliant IPv6 > > addresses > > in the document. If these are example > addresses, they > > should be > > changed. > > Miscellaneous warnings: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > == The copyright year in the IETF Trust and authors > > Copyright Line > > does not > > match the current year > > -- The exact meaning of the all-uppercase > expression 'MAY > > NOT' > > is not > > defined in RFC 2119. If it is intended as a > requirements > > expression, it > > should be rewritten using one of the combinations > > defined in > > RFC 2119; > > otherwise it should not be all-uppercase. > > == The expression 'MAY NOT', while looking like RFC > 2119 > > requirements > > text, > > is not defined in RFC 2119, and should not be > > used. Consider > > using 'MUST > > NOT' instead (if that is what you mean). > > Found 'MAY NOT' in this paragraph: > > To perform ICMPv6 ping to a target SID an echo > request > > message is > > generated by the initiator with the END.OP or > END.OTP > > SID in the > > segment-list of the SRH immediately preceding the > > target SID. > > There MAY > > or MAY NOT be additional segments preceding the > END.OP/ > > END.OTP SID. > > == The expression 'MAY NOT', while looking like RFC > 2119 > > requirements > > text, > > is not defined in RFC 2119, and should not be > > used. Consider > > using 'MUST > > NOT' instead (if that is what you mean). > > Found 'MAY NOT' in this paragraph: > > To traceroute a target SID a probe message is > > generated by the > > initiator with the END.OP or END.OTP SID in the > > segment-list of > > the SRH > > immediately preceding the target SID. There MAY or > > MAY NOT be > > additional > > segments preceding the END.OP/ END.OTP SID. > > -- The document date (December 18, 2019) is 32 days > in the > > past. Is this > > intentional? > > Checking references for intended status: Proposed > Standard > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using > > normative > > references > > to lower-maturity documents in RFCs) > > == Missing Reference: 'SL' is mentioned on line > 190, but not > > defined > > -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '2' on > > line 191 > > -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '1' on > > line 191 > > -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '0' on > > line 192 > > == Missing Reference: 'RFC7011' is mentioned on > line 230, but > > not defined > > == Missing Reference: 'I-D.ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext' is > > mentioned on line > > 241, but not defined > > == Missing Reference: 'RFC792' is mentioned on line > 701, but > > not defined > > == Missing Reference: 'RFC 8403' is mentioned on line > > 660, but not > > defined > > == Unused Reference: 'RFC0792' is defined on line > 823, but no > > explicit > > reference was found in the text > > == Unused Reference: 'RFC8403' is defined on line > 843, but no > > explicit > > reference was found in the text > > == Outdated reference: A later version (-08) exists of > > draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-06 > > Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 12 warnings > (==), 5 > > comments > > (--). > > Run idnits with the --verbose option for more > detailed > > information > > about > > the items above. > > On 05/12/2019 04:53, Ole Troan wrote: > > Hello, > > As agreed in the working group session in > Singapore, this > > message starts a new two week 6MAN Working Group > Last Call on > > advancing: > > Title : Operations, Administration, and > Maintenance > > (OAM) in Segment Routing Networks with IPv6 Data > plane (SRv6) > > Author : Z. Ali, C. Filsfils, S. Matsushima, D. > > Voyer, M. > > Chen > > Filename : draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam-02 > > Pages : 23 > > Date : 2019-11-20 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam/ > > as a Proposed Standard. > > Substantive comments and statements of support for > publishing > > this document should be directed to the mailing list. > > Editorial suggestions can be sent to the author. > This last > > call > > will end on the 18th of December 2019. > > To improve document quality and ensure that bugs are > caught as > > early as possible, we would require at least > > two reviewers to do a complete review of the > document. Please > > let the chairs know if you are willing to be a reviewer. > > The last call will be forwarded to the spring > working group, > > with discussion directed to the ipv6 list. > > Thanks, > > Bob & Ole, 6man co-chairs > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > > Administrative Requests: > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > > Administrative Requests: > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org <mailto:spring@ietf.org> <mailto:spring@ietf.org> > <mailto:spring@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > -- > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > <mailto:loa@pi.nu> <mailto:loa@pi.nu> > > Senior MPLS Expert > > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org <mailto:spring@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > -- > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu> > > Senior MPLS Expert > > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spring-s… Ole Troan
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Greg Mirsky
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
- RE: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Ron Bonica
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… otroan
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- RE: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Loa Andersson
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Bob Hinden
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spri… Bob Hinden
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky