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Re: Non-Last Small IPv6 Fragments

"Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> Mon, 14 January 2019 18:39 UTC

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From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
Cc: IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Non-Last Small IPv6 Fragments
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:39:29 +0000
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On 14 Jan 2019, at 18:12, Nick Hilliard wrote:

> Tom Herbert wrote on 14/01/2019 17:58:
>> I don't know what it means to "reassemble fragments in the network".
>> Reassembly is specified as an operation at destination end points.
>
> some types of stateful middleboxes do in-line reassembly.
>
> There are many horrors on the Internet.

And maybe it’s time to call them out, say screw them, and either 
people have to live with broken stuff or get end-to-end connectivity 
again.   Maybe it’s time to stop catering for the brokenness and 
control of others.  Maybe it’s time to play it hard.

/bz

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