Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sat, 18 November 2017 15:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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On 11/17/2017 10:49 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>; wrote:
[....
> 
> The security consideration discusson went something like this:
>     - this is a trivial DOS if there is really an IPv4 network
>     - hosts that want to do v4 must therefore take this as advice, rather
>       than gospel, and try the IPv4 anyway.
>     - since they will try the IPv4 anyway, the goal of shutting them up
>       fails.
> 
> However, I am enthusistic about such a flag, even if it is advice only and
> everyone has to ignore it for security reasons.  It announces a desired
> policy for the router issuing it.  It says, "I do not offer native IPv4"
> 
> It can moderate the hosts' enthuasiam for finding an IPv4, can ask the human
> for advice, and if you want to mount a DOS against the IPv4 network, just use
> DHCPv4 as people do now.

It is not the same: the IPv5 could be protected sith something a la
dhcp-snooping, and unprotected nn the IPv6 side. And this mechanism
could allow an IPv4 DoS where otherwise not possible.

Note: The above is *not* an argument against this proposal, but rather
feedback aimed at raising awareness about possible issues. The above
should be described in the Sec Cons section.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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