Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Tue, 20 October 2020 16:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:50:14 -0700
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Can anyone point to a specification on Starlink?

Without that, this thread seems pretty content free.

Bob


> On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:24 PM Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
> Behcet,
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> It is 12GHz
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> Would that frequency spectrum be compatible for use on mobile vehicular platforms
> 
> (e.g., cars, drones, helicopters, planes, etc.). Because it comes from Tesla, can we
> 
> expect at least cars?
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> 
> 
> 
> Yes, Starlink certainly aims at connecting Tesla cars to their network, they are currently connected with 4G links
> 
> Do you think that 12GHz causes issues on mobile vehicular platforms?
> 
> Behcet
> Thanks - Fred
> 
> 
> 
> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Behcet Sarikaya
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:17 PM
> To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
> Cc: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"
> 
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> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Le 19/10/2020 à 17:58, Behcet Sarikaya a écrit :
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:20 AM Templin (US), Fred L
> > <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com <mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Seems like an “IPv6-over-foo” document might be in order; anyone care
> > to____
> >
> > join me on that?____
> >
> > __
> >
> >
> > IPv6-over-foo on Starlink section would look like
> >
> > TBD until more is revealed
> 
> One in USA could look at the regulator's public database and find which
> frequency channel is allocated for Tesla for Starlink.
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> It is 12GHz
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> 
> 
> From that, one
> could find which encoders are available on that frequency.  From that
> one could find which protocols are on it.  It makes for a 'foo' in 'IPv6
> over foo'.  The link layer.
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> 
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> I don't know how to do these?
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> 
> 
> Behcet
> 
> Alex
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> >
> > Behcet
> >
> > __
> >
> > Fred____
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:*Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com
> > <mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com>] *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020
> > 8:14 AM *To:* Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca
> > <mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca>>; 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org
> > <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>> *Cc:* Templin (US), Fred L
> > <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com <mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>>
> > *Subject:* Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"____
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > ____
> >
> > Thanks Michael, I'd like to know as much as possible how IPv6 works
> > in Starlink.____
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Behcet____
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:47 PM Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca
> > <mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca>> wrote:____
> >
> > Anyone read anything more specific about what Starlink is doing that
> > is "simpler than IPv6"?
> >
> > I'd sure like to know that it permits end-terminal to end-terminal
> > communicatons without a trip through a data center.
> >
> > -- ]               Never tell me the odds!                 | ipv6
> > mesh networks [ ]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works
> > |    IoT architect   [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca <mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca>
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> >
> >
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