Re: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?

Xing Li <xing@cernet.edu.cn> Thu, 28 May 2020 15:10 UTC

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To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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Subject: Re: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
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Nick Hilliard 写道:
> +1 on this.  Also, hats off to Ole for explicitly acknowledging that 
> this is a vendor proxy war.
>
> As an independent operator of services, I find it disappointing and 
> thoroughly distasteful to see representatives from otherwise reputable 
> vendors engage in a protocol assassination attempt for what are very 
> obviously political reasons.
+1,xing
>
> This is abusive and damaging to the IETF,  to the development of 
> useful building-block technologies, and serves to act directly against 
> the interests of technology consumers.  It needs to stop.
>
> Nick
>
> Templin (US), Fred L wrote on 28/05/2020 15:29:
>>
>> Well said.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2020 7:26 AM
>> *To:* Bernier, Daniel <daniel.bernier@bell.ca>ca>; Voyer, Daniel 
>> <daniel.voyer@bell.ca>ca>; Templin (US), Fred L 
>> <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>om>; otroan@employees.org; Mark Smith 
>> <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* 6MAN <6man@ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: So where have all these new 6man WG people come from?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Not proposing any such thing.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Am questioning if we are seeing a growth in participation – or a 
>> blatant stacking of the floor with people who have never set foot on 
>> the lists and will never will again.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Similar to the floor of +1’s we saw on something else a while back – 
>> where – once I took the list of all of them – and ran through an 
>> analytics script – had never posted to any archive I could find – and 
>> have never posted since.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Encourage participation – yes – encourage blatant floor stacking for 
>> the purpose of saying “I support this” and disappearing into the 
>> woodwork – no – there is a big difference
>>
>>  
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>  
>>
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