Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt]

Nick Hilliard <> Sun, 19 November 2017 14:25 UTC

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Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
> Let's not forget about battery life. According to the numbers in RFC
> 7772, on a phone even just sending DHCPv4 packets every 2 minutes could
> reduce battery life by ~8% compared to a completely idle device.

is there any guarantee in this situation that any other apps would not
be chattering in the background over ipv6 anyway?  From what I've seen
on tcpdump, mobile phones tend to be extraordinarily noisy, and a dhcpv4
packet every two minutes would, in any situation where I've examined
mobile phone traffic from normal handsets, be nothing more than
background noise.

Also, the whole internet isn't a mobile phone network, and what might be
relevant or appropriate on a cell network might not be in any way
relevant to another type of network.  Without meaning to state the
obvious, it would be important to take this into account when framing
any problem statement.

One relatively straightforward way of dealing with extraneous dhcpv4
packets would be to create a new dhcpv4 reply option hinting to the
requester to cease DHCPv4 requests on the interface in question, or to
slow down the request rate from one every two minutes to one every X
minutes where X is network defined.