IPv6 first-hop risks and threats and mitigations

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 23 November 2020 00:24 UTC

Return-Path: <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
X-Original-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost []) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634453A1080; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:24:19 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.002
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com []) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QlhngC2Brp2X; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:24:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca []) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51B9C3A1075; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:24:16 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (localhost []) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2B0389B6; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 19:25:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([]) by localhost (localhost []) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id y7xQ3ZQHJyy2; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 19:25:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C8C389B5; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 19:25:26 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C457D; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 19:24:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Xipengxiao <xipengxiao@huawei.com>, Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com>, "Pascal Thubert \(pthubert\)" <pthubert=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, 6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org>, "ipv6\@ietf.org" <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: IPv6 first-hop risks and threats and mitigations
In-Reply-To: <74f40b386fc24d288412663a707517e4@huawei.com>
References: <160603202606.8188.11893701417034577472@ietfa.amsl.com> <7B0EBC9E-4831-4005-98D9-5010CD1097F6@cisco.com> <CAMugd_UrsgmYTSg-abzuHt5ry2dxrU8gLFAQn+WkgcupGbrc5Q@mail.gmail.com> <74f40b386fc24d288412663a707517e4@huawei.com>
X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1
X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m<nPbLgmtKK-5dC@#:k
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 19:24:14 -0500
Message-ID: <20462.1606091054@localhost>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/VuurlHVPPSzj5IUJl5o1aC_zWsQ>
X-BeenThere: ipv6@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IPv6 Maintenance Working Group \(6man\)" <ipv6.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 00:24:19 -0000

Xipengxiao <xipengxiao@huawei.com> wrote:
    > I also think that it’s a good piece of work, and shouldn’t be given up.

    > I would also like to take this opportunity to propose that the WG start
    > a “problem statement of IPv6 first-hop protocols” draft.  The rationale
    > is: many IPv6 first-hop protocols like ND, SLAAC were designed long
    > time ago; many things have changed over the years, e.g. the advent of
    > wireless, mobility, IoT, overlays;  lately there are multiple drafts
    > trying to fix various issues in a number of IPv6 first-hop protocols,
    > including:

So, the idea being to write down the issues, give the attacks names, and then
clarify what defenses we have already and how well they work?

Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
           Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide