Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis-08
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 31 March 2017 18:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis-08
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Robert, Actually this was thoroughly discussed (mainly with Stefano I think) and these texts in draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header-06 were carefully designed to be compatible with both RFC2460 and RFC2460bis: Section 2.3.1: > The outer header with the SRH is no different from any other > tunneling encapsulation mechanism and allows a network operator to > implement traffic engineering mechanisms so to efficiently steer > traffic across his infrastructure. Section 5.1: > A Source SR Node can be any node originating an IPv6 packet with its > IPv6 and Segment Routing Headers. This include either: > > A host originating an IPv6 packet. > > An SR domain ingress router encapsulating a received IPv6 packet > into an outer IPv6 header followed by an SRH. I suppose we need expert review of the routing header itself, but for me there is simply no issue about compatibility with 2460(bis). (draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion is a quite different conversation and we should not confuse the two. That would be FUD.) Regards Brian On 01/04/2017 06:56, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Even if we treat encapsulation in new IPv6 header as only an option ? > > Thx > R. > > > > On Mar 31, 2017 12:46, "Suresh Krishnan" <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Robert, >> >> On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Suresh, >> >> As you requested one of many quotes from the draft which your >> clarification to 2460bis directly contradicts with: >> >> This include either: >> >> A host originating an IPv6 packet. >> >> *An SR domain ingress router encapsulating a received IPv6 packet >> into an outer IPv6 header followed by an SRH.* >> >> >> Excellent. Thanks for pointing out the exact text. I can confirm that this >> text *is compliant* with the RFC2460bis text. >> >> Thanks >> Suresh >> >> >
- IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man-rfc… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Leddy, John
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… 神明達哉
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Voyer, Daniel
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Joe Touch
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Joe Touch
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Joe Touch
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Mark Smith
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Xing Li
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… otroan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Stewart Bryant
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Leddy, John
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Robert Raszuk
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Mark Smith
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Robert Raszuk
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Timothy Winters
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Michael Richardson
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2460bis-08] Michael Richardson
- Re: Failure of AH (was: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2… Christian Huitema
- Re: Failure of AH (was: Manual PMTUD [was ...rfc2… Michael Richardson
- Re: Failure of AH Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Failure of AH Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Leddy, John
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Mark Townsley
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Mark Townsley
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Leddy, John
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- RE: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- RE: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… 神明達哉
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Mark Smith
- RE: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… otroan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… otroan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Jen Linkova
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Jen Linkova
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Tim Chown
- RE: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Martin Rex
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Last Call conclusion for draft-ietf-6man… Bob Hinden