[IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for Adoption

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Sun, 02 June 2024 23:54 UTC

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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
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Subject: [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for Adoption
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Hello Brian, others,

On 2024-06-03 06:45, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 30-May-24 16:11, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
>> I support adoption under the assumption that we will address browser
>> concerns (as expressed by David Schinazi) to their satisfaction,
> 
> I'd be interested in specific suggestions for the wording,

I'd like to defer to David Schinazi and others directly involved with 
browsers for this.

Regards,    Martin.

> since
> the text already says:
> 
> "This document obsoletes [RFC6874], which implementors
> of web browsers have determined is impracticable to support..."
> 
> and
> 
> "Therefore, this approach
> does not resolve the issue of how browsers should support link-local
> addresses..."
> 
> So what else is needed? The whole specification is a BCP14 SHOULD,
> which means that there
> "may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a
> particular item, but the full implications must be understood and
> carefully weighed before choosing a different course."
> That is exactly what the browser implementors have already done.
> 
>> and
>> that we see this as a first step to improving the situation with zone
>> identifiers in general (as expressed e.g. by David Farner).
> 
> I agree. Personally I won't take the lead on 4007bis effort, but I'm
> sure it's needed.
> 
>>
>> The reason I support adoption is that if published, this will obsolete
>> RFC 6874, which we know was wishful thinking.
> 
> Sadly, yes.
> 
>       Brian
> 
>>
>> Regards,   Martin.
>>
>> On 2024-05-28 00:55, Jen Linkova wrote:
>>> This email starts an adoption call for the following document:
>>>
>>> Title : Entering IPv6 Zone Identifiers in User Interfaces
>>> Authors : B. Carpenter, R. Hinden
>>> Pages : 9
>>> Date : 2024-03-31
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui/
>>>
>>> Please note that the draft in question is a continuation of the work
>>> done in draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis which was adopted by this WG
>>> previously.
>>>
>>> Substantive comments, statements of support for adopting this
>>> document or objections to the adoption should be sent to the mailing
>>> list.  Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors.
>>> .
>>> This adoption call will end on June 12th 2024.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ole & Jen
>>>
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Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. Dürst
Department of Intelligent Information Technology
College of Science and Engineering
Aoyama Gakuin University
Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara
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