Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6.
Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Thu, 31 March 2011 12:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6.
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On 3/31/11 4:40 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > Hello Radek. > > I have privacy concerns, because the VIN is permanent for the vehicle. > I suspect there is a good chance that the vehicle's IP address will > not be used just for diagnostics, but also for general purpose > connections to the Internet (for example fetching a movie for the > children). If an IP address is based on VIN, then it will never > change, ever. It will be possible for observers to build up > information about what the vehicle's users like to connect to. > > Also, if you are a diagnostic center and you receive packets from an > IP address claiming to have a particular VIN number, how do you > authenticate it? How do you know that is really the vehicle it claims > to be? You will need application layer authentication in any case. > > I believe it would be much better to decouple "vehicle identification" > from "IP layer location" (the IP address). These tokens have This made me immediately think of HIP with the VIN being used as the Host Identifier. > different purposes. The vehicle identification is for use with > database applications and diagnostic applications, while the IP > address is for IP forwarding to know how to reach the vehicle. You > could possibly allow the vehicle to connect to the network and get any > IP address -- any address at all -- and then connect to the diagnostic > center and tell you its VIN and authenticate, all in a higher layer > protocol.
- Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Radek Wróbel
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Scott Brim
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. George Michaelson
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Roland Bless
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Thierry Ernst
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Scott Brim
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. George Michaelson
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Bob Hinden
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Scott Brim
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Roland Bless
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Thierry Ernst
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Roland Bless
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Roland Bless
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Nathan Ward
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Scott Brim
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Scott Brim
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Brian Haberman
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Jong-Hyouk Lee
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Roland Bless
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Roland Bless
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Bob Hinden
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Jong-Hyouk Lee
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Jong-Hyouk Lee
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Jared Mauch
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Jong-Hyouk Lee
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Hesham Soliman
- Re: Vehicle's VIN in IPv6. Alexandru Petrescu