Re: [v6ops] Stateful SLAAC (draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host)

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sat, 11 November 2017 00:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Stateful SLAAC (draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host)
To: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
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On 11/10/2017 1:04 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> How do you get from this: "it only requires implementation change on one
> 'side' of the protocol" to this: "From that perspective I think you can
> argue that this is not a protocol specification". (First sentence
> acknowledges it *is* a protocol)
FWIW, from my definition, if you change the rules of either side of a
communication system, you have changed the protocol. The protocol
describes the rules of ALL parties of the system as a set, not in isolation.

Joe