Re: Updated IID length text

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 19 January 2017 09:26 UTC

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Le 19/01/2017 à 04:00, Lorenzo Colitti a écrit :
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Brian E Carpenter
> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> However, consistent use of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration
> (SLAAC)[RFC4862] requires that all interfaces on a link use the same
> length of Interface ID. To guarantee interoperability of SLAAC, a
> fixed length of Interface ID is necessary.
>
>
> I'm not a fan of this text, because it's a weak argument. A possible
>  (uninformed) response to it might be "why do we need this SLAAC
> thing anyway? I want to use /120 prefixes and DHCPv6, just like I do
> in IPv4". And really, SLAAC is only one of the reasons why we have a
> 64-bit IID. There are lots of good arguments for this in RFC7421 -
> solid arguments, about address scarcity and future flexibility, and
> so on. We should let those provide the rationale since they can give
> a much more complete picture than we can in two lines here. Since
> you cite RFC7421 just a couple of lines down, I would just strike
> this text entirely, since it looks like the text is only there to
> justify the following normative text.
>
> I think I'm fine with the text that precedes it ("   IPv6 routing is
>  based on prefixes of any valid length up to 128 [BCP198]. For
> example, [RFC6164] ...)" and the text that follows it.

I am fine with that part too.

I do not agree with the part that says "IIDs are required be 64bit long".

If IIDs are required to be 64bit long (even if only in the 000-prefixed
space) then the network can not grow at the edges, at least not with
SLAAC.

The network can not grow at the edges with SLAAC because the operators
are already at this limit; they imagine no-one needs to grow beyond it.
  They also imagine that a 2^64 is enough for an end user, w/o
understanding that /64 is but one subnet (because of SLAAC).

We need the network to grow at the edge: cascading subnets at the edge.

I could agree though the RFC2464-10MbitsEthernet be IID-len 64.
Provided that document is used only on 10Mbps wired Ethernet only (not
on WiFi, etc.)  New documents for IPv6-over-WiFi,
IPv6-over-100GBEthernet, could use other that 64bit IID lengths.

Alex


Alex

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