Re: Interested in wireless ?
Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com> Tue, 07 July 2020 09:10 UTC
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From: Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 10:10:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: Interested in wireless ?
To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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I definitely support the adoption of this draft. The content is needed and add more detailed information on ND and wireless. On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 09:13 Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert= 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Dear chairs; > > We have had a long thread on the adoption of > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless. > I have seen only supporting comments, and even a path for a proper RFC > type indicated by Brian below. > But I have not seen the action on your part. > > It would be nice to make the call for adoption now so we could discuss the > result at one of the IETF virtual meetings. > What do you think? > > Pascal > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> > > Sent: lundi 1 juin 2020 01:21 > > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> > > Cc: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org> > > Subject: Re: Interested in wireless ? > > > > Pascal, > > > > There is a category of standards track documents foreseen in RFC2026 > called > > "applicability statements", described at > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-3.2 > > > > I think that is perhaps where your draft could fit. A little bit > stronger than > > Informational and little bit different than Best *Current* Practice. > > > > Regards > > Brian > > > > On 01-Jun-20 04:40, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > > Hello Brian > > > > > > We may have to split the doc but for the most part I agree it is an > > informational. > > > > > > For now I suggest to just change the intended status accordingly and > aim at > > BCP or something. > > > > > > Let’s discuss in parallel the coexistence and if there’s a need for an > std track > > somewhere. There’s at least the use of a 6LBR for address looking up in > > unicast. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Pascal > > > > > >> Le 30 mai 2020 à 22:47, Brian E Carpenter < > brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> > > a écrit : > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I believe that this is an important topic that 6MAN should take up. > The draft > > is a good basis. > > >> > > >> At the moment I find the draft a bit confusing in one way. It's aimed > at > > standards track, but it mainly doesn't read like a standard. There's a > lot of > > discussion but not much specification. If I was a coder, I wouldn't > really know > > where to start. For example, the end of the Introduction says: > > >> > > >> "This document discusses the applicability of IPv6 ND over wireless > > >> links, as compared with routing-based alternatives such as prefix-per > > >> node and multi-link subnets (MLSN), and with Wireless ND (WiND), that > > >> is similar to the Wi-Fi association and reduces the need for > > >> Network-Layer multicast." > > >> > > >> If it's a standard, IMHO it shouldn't do that. It should specify what > WiND is, > > with normative references as needed. Section 5 is the important part. > It's fine > > to have a descriptive section about why WiND is needed, but that is > almost > > better as an appendix. The main text should be essentially the > instructions for a > > kernel programmer. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> Brian Carpenter > > >> > > >>> On 30-May-20 23:46, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > >>> Dear all > > >>> > > >>> Since there’s so much energy on the list these days, could we > > >>> consider the adoption of > > >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-05 > > >>> ? > > >>> > > >>> I got only positive feedback, there’s no politics, there no label, > it’s all about > > IPv6 models for wireless. This may appear useful in a world where the > vast > > majority of devices are connected that way. > > >>> > > >>> Keep safe, > > >>> > > >>> Pascal > > >>> > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative > > >>> Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> > > >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
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- Re: Interested in wireless ? Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Carsten Bormann
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Michael Richardson
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Interested in wireless ? STARK, BARBARA H
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Interested in wireless ? STARK, BARBARA H
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Interested in wireless ? STARK, BARBARA H
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- Re: Interested in wireless ? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Michael McBride
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Interested in wireless ? Manfredi (US), Albert E
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- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
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- RE: Interested in wireless ? Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Interested in wireless ? Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Interested in wireless ? Alexandre Petrescu