Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry]

David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Fri, 11 December 2020 00:46 UTC

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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 18:46:24 -0600
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Subject: Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry]
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 1:04 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> What costs money with a routeable prefix is not the prefix, it's the
> routeability and the connectivity. If that's a problem, it can only be
> solved by some such RIR policy approach as David describes.
>

Actually, it is not the prefix, the size of it, or even the routability of
it that cost money. It is the administrative and technical
coordination that makes it routable, secure, and the operation of services
like reverse DNS, RPKI, Whois, etc... that make a prefix usable that costs
money. Including convening the community of stakeholders to create and
maintain the necessary registry policies, through the consensus of the
various community stakeholders, and the staff necessary to implement
and administer the registry using those policies and operated the technical
services needed by the community.

Many of the services provided by the RIRs are useful even for users and
prefixes not in the DFZ. Could some of these services be provided
independently of the RIRs, sure, but you will still need to replicate much,
if not most, of what the RIRs do, which seems inefficient.

The thing that make ULA effectively free is the lack of any coordination
and any services, change the dial on either of those, and you will
effectively rebuild the RIRs to one extent or another.

Thanks

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David Farmer               Email:farmer@umn.edu
Networking & Telecommunication Services
Office of Information Technology
University of Minnesota
2218 University Ave SE        Phone: 612-626-0815
Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029   Cell: 612-812-9952
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