Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt
Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Sun, 16 July 2017 11:20 UTC
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Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > I see that the document still says: > > There will be a wide range of IPv6 deployment models and differences > in address assignment requirements, some of which may require DHCPv6 > for stateful address assignment. Consequently, all hosts SHOULD > implement address configuration via DHCPv6. > > We should abandon this documentation, for two reasons. > > First, networks that require DHCPv6 assignment are explicitly NOT > RECOMMENDED by current IETF best practices. Specifically, RFC 7934 > section 8 says "it is RECOMMENDED that the network give the host the > ability to use new addresses without requiring explicit requests". A > DHCPv6-only network cannot meet this recommendation, because on a > DHCPv6-only network, all addresses acquisition requires an explicit > request to the network. > > Second, the draft says "Where devices are likely to be carried by > users and attached to multiple visisted networks, DHCPv6 client > anonymity profiles SHOULD be supported as described in [RFC7844]". neither of these suggestions form anything even close to an adequate basis to drop the recommendation for dhcpv6. The self-selection addressing model does not suit the deployment requirements for many types of ipv6 networks, including enterprise, provider hosting, terrestrial access networks (e.g. docsis / gpon / ipoe) and others. If the recommendation for dhcpv6 is dropped, then there is no recommended ietf model for operator-assigned addressing, and this would leave a glaring hole in the ipv6 host specification. Just because SLAAC works for many types of ipv6 deployments, that doesn't make it a suitable model for every situation. Nick
- I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt internet-drafts
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Timothy Winters
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Erik Kline
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Job Snijders
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Sander Steffann
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt David Farmer
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt David Farmer
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Morizot Timothy S
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Morizot Timothy S
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Tim Chown
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Tim Chown
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Nick Hilliard
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Tim Chown
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Timothy Winters
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Bob Hinden
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Manfredi, Albert E
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis-01.txt Templin, Fred L